Watchtower pays the lobbies

by TJ Curioso 12 Replies latest watchtower scandals

  • TJ Curioso
    TJ Curioso

    friends ,

    Visit the Site:

    http://www.nyc.gov/lobbyistsearch/search

    where it asks for " name search " , put " Watchtower Bible "

    You will have a great surprise and a good day of research .

    Look where does the money given to the Watchtower .

  • happyexjw
    happyexjw

    Great find

  • Bella15
    Bella15

    What do they lobby for?

  • blondie
  • Terry
    Terry

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    Target: NYC PLANNING COMMISSION - NYC COUNCIL
    Subject: ZONING MAP CHANGE AND SPECIAL PERMIT FOR DEVELOPMENT OF SITE AT 85 JAY STREET, BKLYN

    CompensationReimbursement
    P1$6,030.00$0.00
    P2$7,000.00 $0.00
    P3$21,330.00 $0.00
    P4$25,520.00 $0.00
    Total$59,880.00

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    Target: NYC PLANNING LOWW NNYC COUNCIL
    Subject: ZONING MAP CHANGE CIVIL SPECIAL PERMIT FOR DEVELOPMENT OF SITE AT 85 JAY STREET, BROOKLYN.

    CompensationReimbursement
    P1$11,375.00$0.00
    P2$4,700.00 $0.00
    P3$8,700.00 $0.00
    P4$5,200.00 $0.00
    Total$29,975.00

    Target: NYC DEPT OF CITY PLANNING; NYC COUNCIL
    Subject: REZONING AND SPECIAL PERMITS FOR DEVELOPMENT OF NEW BUILDING AT 85 JAY STREET, BROOKLYN, NY

    CompensationReimbursement
    P1$0.00$0.00
    P2$0.00 $0.00
    P3$0.00 $0.00
    P4$3,350.00 $0.00
    Total$3,350.00
  • blondie
    blondie

    I see people hired to talk to government agencies to get approvals to build buildings, put up signs. Considering the construction projects of the WTS, I can see their need to hire professionals to discuss their side of things, how they will adhere to the laws. Not much different from hiring a lawyer. I don't see this as a discussion of political issues.

  • TJ Curioso
    TJ Curioso

    The question is: What is a Lobby ?

    Nothing more, nothing less than ... PRESSURE GROUPS
    Further, any Lobby has very strong political connections .
    See the definition on Wikipedia for example.

    And the final question is : CAN ? ?

  • bats in the belfry
    bats in the belfry

    Religion in Politics

    In the United States some religions maintain lobbyists right in the nation’s capital, to try to influence lawmakers. What do they hope to accomplish? A Catholic priest explained: “We feel we have a lot of long-term influence on the moral attitudes that set the political tone for the nation.” A Protestant minister added: “We ought to be able to say to the government: ‘you have done something wrong; you have chosen the wrong path to take.’”

    Such lobbying has been going on in a discreet way for a long time. A more recent phenomenon—and much less discreet—has been the emergence of special-interest groups organized by Protestant fundamentalists. These groups, such as the Moral Majority in the United States, have expressed themselves forcefully on such issues as support for Israel, homosexual rights, the Panama Canal treaty, Taiwan security and abortion. Politicians have learned not to underestimate their influence. Senators who supported programs unpopular with them have been voted out of office.

    The World Council of Churches, based in Europe, became involved in politics in another way. Since 1970, the Council has donated a reported $3 million (U.S.) to various political revolutionary movements.

    Again, some ordained ministers seek elective office in government. However, a recent newspaper headline exemplified what is perhaps the ultimate in political involvement: “Philippine priests leave parishes, join rebellion.” The article told of four Catholic priests who joined a Communist guerrilla movement. Such active involvement in radical movements is widespread, but a heavy price has been paid. In Latin America it has led to the killing, abduction or exile of an estimated 850 priests, nuns and lay persons during the past decade.

    How do you view such political activity by religious leaders? Would you applaud it? Or are you doubtful? It may be that you do not object to religion’s discreetly speaking out on political issues but are uneasy about priests’ joining in the revolutions.

    Yet, if we agree to any religious involvement in politics, it is difficult to say where it should stop.If it is acceptable for some ordained ministers to lobby discreetly in a nation’s capital for programs they feel are good, why is it wrong for Protestant fundamentalists to organize state-wide pressure groups in order to promote programs that are important to them? Also, if the Moral Majority can speak out for the defense of Israel, why cannot the World Council of Churches contribute money to military causes they favor? And if that is not wrong, why is it objectionable if, instead of paying money for other people to take risks, Catholic priests should fight and die for causes they support in South America and Asia?

    And yet . . . do you detect something wrong with this chain of logic? Is this really the best way for religion to help mankind in these difficult days?

    It is not new for religion to try to influence politics. In the following chart are listed some notable occasions when religion and politics mixed.


    w82 1/1 pp. 3-4 - The Churches Are Getting Involved

    Protestant fundamentalists = Jehovah's Witnesses

  • NewYork44M
    NewYork44M

    This falls in line with what the Watchtower really is - a real estate development company disguised as a religion.

  • rebel8
    rebel8

    Zoning is a law/code so yes they are trying to influence a law/code in their favor.

    They have lobbied in the past for changes to Pledge of Allegience laws, etc.--all things they say are just to assert their religious rights.

    If it was to influence other legislation, well that would be political involvement, a potential violation of their doctrine.

    I searched the NYS lobbyists and didn't find anything. https://apps.nyintegrity.org/lrr/Menu_reports_public.aspx

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