Sadly the Independent blog really slows my laptop down and I can't get on it at all on my work's PC.
I really wanted to reply to 'David' on this one...........
What I want to say is that the Apostles may have asked about the immediacy of the kingdom but they didn't print it in publications and force people to accept it under pain of shunning!!
David. Sorry, I'm going to have to ask you to qualify in scriptural context this statement: ''...but even the
Bible says that the 1st century apostles had imagined that God's
Kingdom was coming immediately.''
What scriptures in context, are you using that actually proves this?
Thanks
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I was referring to Jesus' sermon to his disciples beginning at Luke 19:11:
"11 Now while[a] they were listening to these things, he went on and[b] told a parable, because he was near Jerusalem and they thought that the kingdom of God was going to appear immediately. 12 Therefore he said, “A certain nobleman traveled to a distant country to receive for himself a kingdom and to return. 13 And summoning ten of his own slaves, he gave them ten minas[c] and said to them, ‘Do business until I come back.’[d] 14 But his citizens hated him, and sent a delegation after him, saying, ‘We do not want this man to be king over us!’ 15 And it happened that when he returned after[e]
receiving the kingdom, he ordered these slaves to whom he had given the
money to be summoned to him, so that he could know what they had gained
by trading. 16 So the first arrived, saying, ‘Sir, your mina has made ten minas more!’ 17 And he said to him, ‘Well done, good slave! Because you have been faithful in a very small thing, have authority[f] over ten cities.’ 18 And the second came, saying, ‘Sir, your mina has made five minas.’ 19 So he said to this one also, ‘And you be over five cities.’ 20 And another came, saying, ‘Sir, behold your mina, which I had put away for safekeeping in a piece of cloth. 21
For I was afraid of you, because you are a severe man—you withdraw what
you did not deposit, and you reap what you did not sow!’ 22 He said to him, ‘By your own words[g]
I will judge you, wicked slave! You knew that I am a severe man,
withdrawing what I did not deposit and reaping what I did not sow. 23 And why did you not give my money to the bank, and I, when I[h] returned, would have collected it with interest?’ 24 And to the bystanders he said, ‘Take away from him the mina and give it[i] to the one who has the ten minas!’ 25 And they said to him, ‘Sir, he has ten minas.’ 26 ‘I tell you that to everyone who has, more will be given. But from the one who does not have, even what he has will be taken away. 27 But these enemies of mine who did not want me to be king over them—bring them[j] here and slaughter them in my presence!’”