D8TA - BREAKING MY SILENCE!

by clarity 13 Replies latest jw friends

  • clarity
    clarity

    This will put starch in your backbone! Love this guy!

    >

    D8TABREAKING MY SILENCE EVERYONE READ!!! posted 9 years ago (5/11/2002)




    Post 171 of 1002
    Since 2/1/2002
    ADGRPID:|SERVTYPE: As I’ve made it known on this board, my current status with the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society is that of “INACTIVE”. This is a loophole I have utilized, to keep an open channel of communication with family members in the organization.

    I want to clarify with everyone: I DO NOT hold any doctrinal ideas, theology, ideology, opinions expressed in any form by the WTBTS. Therefore, to simply put, I do not believe in the WTBTS in any way, shape, or form. If you are disfellowshiped, disassociated, or have been labeled an “apostate”….my e-mail is always open for correspondence. Heck, if you want to have lunch with me, just say where and I’ll be there. (just emphasizing the point).

    Now, for those who live in the U.S. and wish to know how to utilize the “inactive” status to simply keep that “open channel” with your JW family members here is a successful way of doing it, as per my experience. And, yes I know that this board is lurked by “Jehovah’s little helpers”….and to those people, there’s not a thing you can do about it. Even if they are from the headquarters of the WTBTS. Oh sure, they may print up one of those articles that vaguely compliment rank and file members, of how “wise” it is to be weary of us disgruntled biological family inactive apostate types. Big F**king Wow, an article…wooop-de-F**king-doo.

    And with this said, my anonymity is now going to be revealed. Not a big deal with this board, but for those who (are associated with the WTBTS) wish to cross my path and wish to taste vengeance…take heed to what is typed here.

    D8TA’s Guide to Keeping “Inactive” and Keeping Those Nosey ELDERS Off Yer Back

    I was DF’d at 16. My family members kept to there JW instructions and shunned me. For a number of years, I had investigated the WTBTS teachings and found to my understanding…that the WTBTS is nothing more than a cult. Yet, I did not like having my own biological family not communicating with me. So, at age 23-24 I decided…go back, get “reinstated” and simply fade away. It worked. Now I could actually “TALK” to my JW family members. And “talk” I did. I am happy to say….2 of my 3 sisters have opened their minds and are no longer associating with WTBTS.

    My mother on the other hand, is a die-hard-rank-and-file. I presented my point of view, and she chooses not to listen. Hey, I’m content that I tried, but she’s 62 and old enough to make her own choices. But being the “good little Jehovah’s helper”, she went to the elders of the local congregation and reported my “APOSTATE” point of views. Did they want to meet with me? You bet….and this is what happened:

    This was already set up with the typical 3 member elder meeting in the back room scenario. But, I went in there with one purpose. I wasn’t going there to argue with the 3 geezers about doctrine and theology. I wasn’t going there to say whether or not I believe that the WTBTS was “Jehovah’s Earthly Organization”. Those are “their” rules, not mine.

    First off, they started with their probing questions. Can’t remember what they were, didn’t give a crap. This is what I SAID and just simply left:

    “If there is an announcement pertaining to myself as being DISFELLOWSHPPED, DISASSOCIATED, PUBLICLY REPROVED, OR LABLED AN APOSTATE: I will pursue any legal rights and means in the civil court system against ALL OF YOU including the Presiding Overseer and the person making the announcement. Let me make it clear, I am NOT suing the Watch Tower Bible Tract Society. I am going to take ALL OF YOU PERSONALLY thru the court system. Believe me gentlemen, you know my financial situation, I have the resources to drag this out a long time. I seriously doubt you have the financial means to even contest my argument.”

    With saying this all they asked was: “ Are you sure you want to do this?”

    I replied “The question isn’t if it’s ME….but rather, are YOU sure”.

    With that, I got up, opened the door…and simply left.

    Now…I figured (and still hope to this day—I will make good on that ultimatum) that they would make that “announcement” on me. Didn’t happen. What did…surprised the pants off me. The Presiding Overseer with a fellow elder in tow had re-contacted me. Apparently, people in NY have instructed them to simply “leave him alone, and leave the situation with his family alone”. They just asked, that I do not go around to other “brother and sisters” of the “LOCAL” congregation and pursue my conversations. Simply put, If I leave them alone, they leave me alone.

    In the end: Do I get to keep talking to my family? You bet. My mom talks with me constantly. Heck, I even get to keep in the effort of providing my point of view with her. With the Pedophile and U.N. issue, it’s opened a few doors. I haven’t attended (nor ever will) a “meeting” for the past 6-7 years. Elders even occasionally give that smile in public. Rank and File members of the local congregation are oblivious to the situation….even had lunch with an old “friend”.

    There are loopholes. Exploit them. If the Elders strong arm you….strong arm back. Don’t make your intentions of legal actions against the WTBTS…HELL NO! Kick those elders in the balls. Let them know that it’s THEIR asses on the line, that THEY will be the ones paying for the lawyers to defend them…since the WTBTS doesn’t provide that sort of assistance. Ain’t that a bitch...gee…too bad for them elders. Oh well. :P

    So for a few brave souls who want an real life experience ….here it is.

    And by the way….My name is JAY LANDRY---the only one by that name here. Yep….from SEATTLE WASHINGTON. So please, if you feel like being a “good little Jehovah’s helper” and wish to report me ….please, oh PLEASE do so.

    1) They ain’t going to do shit.
    2) If they do, they know who I am. And yes, I will drag them personally thru the civil process….even if I do loose, I just made them pay 8K-12K and 2 years of their life. I can afford it. Are they willing to “slander” me….and go thru this process to see if they are justified. Tell me, do they personally have the resources?
    3) If this is taken on by the WTBTS….you DAMN well know who I am, and I am taunting you as an enemy…please, oh please….instruct your silly little elders to disfellowship me. I can take you on as well.

  • Momma-Tossed-Me
    Momma-Tossed-Me

    Bravo, I plan on doing the same thing if I get pulled into the back room......

    MTM

  • Magwitch
    Magwitch

    Great Story!

  • Mickey mouse
  • JWdaughter
    JWdaughter

    I think I know this guy, and I think I know what congregation he was in-OMG.He was in a nearby or my own congregation, I think!

  • RagingBull
    RagingBull

    that's pretty cool. :)

  • ScenicViewer
    ScenicViewer

    Curious about something.

    If they had announced D8TA as disfellowshipped, or something like that, on what grounds would he have sued them in civil court? What would have been the cause of action?

  • wannabefree
    wannabefree

    Is this still true? The account was 9 years ago. The only announcement made these days is " so and so is no longer one of Jehovah's Witnesses", which of course triggers the expected programmed response by the faithful R&F. I can't imagine a legal case could be made about such an announcement, which is most likely the reason for coming up with the simplified generic non-slanderous announcement.

    Wouldn't the onus be put on the plaintiff to prove that they still consider themselves to be a member of the religious organization and that such an announcement was improper?

    If association is at-will ... you would prove by your actions that you are not associated with the group. No harm, no foul, you are free to leave at any time.

  • Iamallcool
  • cantleave
    cantleave

    That is why the announcement is now simply "so and so is no longer a Jehovah's Witness!" You can not sue for that.

Share this

Google+
Pinterest
Reddit