Oh grow up.
The title of this thread is borderline hate crime stuff and close to the WT's "mentally diseased" stuff.
Somebody report it.
If the WT said something like this there would be uproar.
Here's a good one the Jehovah's witnesses are worse than Nazi's
by Star tiger 23 Replies latest watchtower scandals
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Star tiger
Hi,
Pubsinger I realise now how offensive my words were, and am sorry for any offense caused. Of course the Jehovah's witnesses are not as bad anywhere near but just wished to illustrate similarites between them.
once again apologies
Star Tiger
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ProdigalSon
George Bush Sr.? Bush is a German surname, guess that makes the connection, eh?
Obviously you have no idea what makes "connections". Bush Sr.'s father Prescott Bush was Hitler's main source of funds, so George Bush Sr. being a closet Nazi shouldn't surprise anyone. HE was the one who first publicly stated the phrase "New World Order" in 1991. Aside from that, Hitler was not "German". He was born in Austria and his father was a half-Jewish Rothschild. His grandfather raped the maid and along came Adolph's daddy.
Here it is straight from Wiki:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adolf_Hitler#Ancestry
Ancestry
Hitler's father, Alois Hitler, was an illegitimate child of Maria Anna Schicklgruber.
Here's a ready-made google search for ya:
By the way, in Bush's Skull and Bones little boys' club, they assign little code names for each other. George H. W. Bush is known as "Gog of Magog".
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pr0ner
Wow thread disaster. Mods do your job and move this to where it belongs as this is neither a scandel or a coverup. As for the OP comparing WT to Nazis and saying it's worse? I'm sure there are a lot of dead Jews and WWII vets that would strongly disagree with you and their families would much rather they live as JW's than dead by the Nazi's hand.
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glenster
The Nazis, more forthrightly, called their PR department the "Ministry of
Public Enlightenment and Propaganda." The Minister was Joseph Goebbels.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazi_propaganda
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ministry_of_Public_Enlightenment_and_Propaganda"The Propaganda Ministry used many media to further the National Socialist
message and maintain control over the people. Posters, newspapers, publishing,
and the arts were all used and explicitly controlled by the Ministry."Radio manufacturers received grants from the government to build cheaper
receivers; these sets were manufactured so that they could not pick up foreign,
non-Nazi broadcasts. In addition, criminal penalties were set in place for
listening to non-German radio stations; by the height of World War II, persons
in Nazi Germany or in lands under Nazi occupation could be executed for this
act."AH: "Propaganda must not investigate the truth objectively and, in so far as
it is favourable to the other side, present it according to the theoretical
rules of justice; yet it must present only that aspect of the truth which is
favourable to its own side. (...) The receptive powers of the masses are very
restricted, and their understanding is feeble. On the other hand, they quickly
forget."http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TnBs8KoHfkk
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Triumph_des_Willens
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AIZKZ3C1ML8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K08akOt2kuo
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gubberningbody
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rNuZfe1GQFc
Does tomorrow only belong to JW's?
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MrMonroe
The Watch Tower leadership certainly acts in a manner that resembles totalitarian states, in which information is controlled and members are stirred into activity to pursue a common goal achieved through unity of thinking. They clearly identify their enemies and encourage members to hate them. They also require unquestioning obedience.
It's an ideology, a belief generated by the cultish conviction that they alone are God's "organisation" and are acting on God's instructions.
Hitler had a worldview as well, but it was driven by a maniacal belief that Jews were the cause of the world's evils. He saw them as inhuman beasts and had no conscience about exterminating them en masse. There's the difference.
I'm reading a chilling book at the moment, Saul Friedlander's Nazi Germany and the Jews, which includes accounts of the cold and dispasionate mass murder of tens of thousands of Jews at a time in 1941: men and women alike were ordered to strip naked, lie face-down in a pit or on top of dead or dying Jews before they were shot with a single bullet to the head from a distance of two metres. The soldiers worked in long shifts to carry out their work.
As much as I hate the WTS, I would never suggest that they would do the same. There's a limit to Star Tiger's analogy, but there are certainly some common elements.
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glenster
The Watchtower leader's methods of teaching their distinctions, meant to feign
that they lead God's organization, indicate they don't believe them, just sell
them. This includes the maintaining of their unique stance on the medical use
of blood/major blood products. As with Popoff's radio receiver gimmick, the
belief in it is entirely the mistake of the customers, and the desire to sell
uniqueness overrides any ethical concerns about deaths (in the case of the JWs
leaders, the 1000's of deaths--probably more JWs than Hitler killed and the
number is growing). As with organized crime, it's mainly about money no matter
what.
http://gtw6437.tripod.com/index.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Popoff
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persecution_of_Jehovah's_Witnesses_in_Nazi_GermanyHitler utilized bastardized Darwinism and eugenics, popular among some in his
day, to propagandize that any non-white Aryan (as defined by the Nazis) people,
including Semitic people, were inferior. The desire to kill them and control
their land overrode any objections. Those considered "life unworthy of life"
also included the criminal, degenerate, dissident, feeble-minded, homosexual,
idle, insane and the weak--the belief was that the human race would be improved
with their extinction by sterilization or execution. Unlike the JWs leaders,
Popoff, or organized crime, Hitler seemed to believe in this pseudoscience.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Master_race
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Band on the Run
No way are the Witnesses remotely as evil as the Nazis. Perhaps they are as bad as the Roman Catholic Church. Ask someone of Jewish descent, a communist, a gypsy, a Witness, a mentally ill person, a physically handicapped person. If given the same power as the Nazis, would the JW abuse their power? I believe so.