Good to study JW past .... New "Writing Archives" under direction of the Writing Committee

by wannabefree 85 Replies latest watchtower bible

  • sir82
    sir82
    Think of how much organized teamwork it takes to publish each issue of The Watchtower in 188 languages simultaneously. They do an incredible amount of work.

    Why do I have this image running thru my head....

    Hundreds and hundreds of gerbils, running furiously on their little exercise wheels...

    That's an "incredible amount of work" also, and every bit as useful as the WTS's efforts to produce "500 magazines a month", 98% of which end up stacked in the back of someone's closet, or curling & yellowing in the corners of laundromats, or providing nesting material for small rodents.

  • agonus
    agonus

    Personally, I can't wait to find out about the "Dawn Mobile". I'm imagining one of those hanging mobiles, with seven little stars and a little throne in the center.

  • Teary Oberon
    Teary Oberon

    "Of course what the wts does is not a miracle! I am just mentioning that the AMOUNT OF WORK they do at Bethel to get all of these publications written and translated all at the same time is beyond what we can imagine. I do not see how they could take the time to scan every single peice of literature they have ever published for over 130 years . And why should they- who would download such a file into their computer anyway?"

    A very reasonable point. They are already busy taking care of the needs of 100,000 congregations all over the world in addition to their vast translation and publishing work. And several here have already stated that most people don't care about 100+ year old publications anyways, so why should the Society waste vaste amounts of time and resources exenting the Library back 80 years when very few are going to use it, and when a person who is genuinely interested in old publications can just use the physical Hall libraries?

    Again, all of this is more of a request coming from ex-Witnesses than it is a request coming from actual Witnesses (and the Society has no obligation to the ex-Witnesses).

  • ziddina
    ziddina
    "the Governing Body should look up the definition of the word heritage it means something that is passed down from PRECEDING generations. Maybe they don't realise they haven't any preceding generations in their history according to their twisted explanations from 1914. so how can they have any heritage. ..." (Edmond Dantes)

    Ah, HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA!!! r

    GREAT one, Edmond!!

  • agonus
    agonus

    Teary,

    The current claims of the WT to be Jehovah's spokesmen/channel/organization etc. all revolve around obscure events (and moreso, LITERATURE) related to the Society in the late 19th/early 20th century. If these claims hold any water, said obscure literature CANNOT be written off as irrelevant. It's CRUCIAL.

  • agonus
    agonus

    I was talking to a DFed friend about "The Truth" (which he still believes it is) and brought up several points including what Pastor Russell said about the dangers of organization and such. He practically yelled at me, "I don't CARE what Pastor Russell said!" and then later said to me in an angry tone "Open your eyes... to the truth!"

    And I just continue to shake my head as the beat goes on...

  • ziddina
    ziddina
    "then why allow the Kingdom Halls to have these big physical libraries? ..." (Teary Oberon)
    "Because they know that no one reads them, in all the congregations I attended they were there mostly for decoration purposes, everybody knew they were old, outdated stuff and funny how no one really is into them ..." (Bella15)

    Oh, WORSE than that, Bella!!!

    When I was 9-10 years old, I spotted ol' Rutherford's book, "Children", on the shelves of the kingdom hall my parents were dragging me to...

    I picked up the book and began reading it, as the adults were distracted by something else (can't remember what, but it gave me enough time to read several pages...)

    When one of the elders - maybe it was the presiding overseer, as I think this was prior to the "elders" arrangement, saw me reading this older book, he SNATCHED the book out of my hands and refused to let me borrow it to read it!!

    THAT was in the early '60's - long before the Watchtower Corporation's concern about "apostates" reached the level it's at today...

    They've been covering their past and indulging in revisionist history since their very beginnings...

    Zid

  • agonus
    agonus

    BTW, why is it the handful of decent WT "apologists" left always have to operate under a shroud of secrecy and/or anonymity? Why is it the best, most literate, intelligent, reasonable, passionate, and capable defenders of the Organization are never actual GB members (or on the Writing Committee for that matter)?

  • sd-7
    sd-7

    To address why the Society hasn't provided the pre-1950 literature on CD-ROM...to suggest that it's because they're sooooo busy maintaining the current stuff is nonsense. How else do you think the Proclaimers book got written? Maybe that took a lot of work and compiling stuff, but they did it, didn't they? Others have found it simple enough to put together the sum total of many years of Watchtower literature. Just search on archive.org. They could do it if they wanted to. Wouldn't be easy, but if they could do 60 years' worth of Watchtowers on CD-ROM, then they can do another 73 years. Size would be an issue, but even a computer from four or five years ago could handle a gigabyte of data without breaking a sweat. A gigabyte (and more) can fit in the palm of your hand and be bought on a flash drive for maybe $20 at most. So size doesn't present that much of an obstacle.

    Having read quite a few full articles from the old days, well, they were extremely long, so selective quoting is about the only way to get a point across without boring somebody to tears with stuff that's not relevant to the point. But I find it rare indeed to see someone who dissents with the Society quote a statement out of its context. Even the post-1950 literature is riddled with contradiction and bizarre statements, so such misquoting would hardly be necessary. I've spent enough time on the CD-ROM to know that without any doubts at all.

    I think it is clear, as others have said here, that the Society is, in its own way, attempting to provide JWs with a response to those who disagree with their teachings or say that they lie about their history. I don't think their argumentation or openness is going to magically improve, but it might be enough to keep people from asking questions that would, before series like this and the 607 articles, have proved challenging to answer. It does the thinking for you, so you don't worry about it.

    Also, nobody reads the stuff in the KH library--who has time? And I don't doubt they'd be regarded at least with suspicion for doing so.

    The other thing here is, quite a few of those old publications were specifically mentioned as fulfillments of prophecies from Revelation. That being said, it's peculiar that those books aren't being studied anymore at meetings. There's a reason why--they were filled with error.

    The fact that the Society is distorting that is pretty well indicated from this January 15th, 2012 issue, page 8:

    page 8: "Does it not reassure you to know that like the apostles and older men of the first century, those faithful men, our 'spiritual ancestors' of the late 1800's, were determined to align their beliefs solidly with God's Word?"

    Determined as they were, they reached an awful lot of bizarre, unscriptural conclusions. But note the positive light they're presented in. That, given what the old literature actually says, is a distortion of reality to any objective mind.

    --sd-7

  • edmond dantes
    edmond dantes

    I think the Dawn Mobile could have been some sort of battle bus which went around the neighbourhood full of wind up gramaphones and megaphones a bit like an ice cream van without the jingles ready to blast out the Kingdom message on a Sunday morning while all decent people were trying to get a bit of time in bed.

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