Blondie's Comments You Will Not Hear at the 11-06-2011 WT Study (YOUR SHARE)

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    Comments You Will Not Hear at the 11-06-2011 WT Study (SEPTEMBER 15, 2011, pages 11-15)(YOUR SHARE)

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    ARE YOU LETTING

    JEHOVAH BE YOUR SHARE?

    “Keep on . . . seeking first the kingdom and his righteousness, and

    all these other things will be added to you.”—MATT. 6:33.

    OPENING COMMMENTS

    Where is Jesus in this question? Acts says “by divine providence” Jesus followers came to be known as Christians not Jehovah’s witnesses. How do Paul, James, Peter, Jude, and John identify themselves?

    (Romans 1:1) . . .Paul, a slave of Jesus Christ and called to be an apostle. . .

    (James 1:1) . . .James, a slave of God and of [the] Lord Jesus Christ. . .

    (1 Peter 1:1) . . .Peter, an apostle of Jesus Christ. . .

    (Jude 1) . . .Jude, a slave of Jesus Christ. . .

    (Revelation 1:1) . . .A revelation by Jesus Christ,…to his slave John,

    No mention of Jehovah….why did they not identify themselves as Jehovah’s witnesses?

    The real problem is that once again the WTS is using the OT to talk to self-proclaimed Jehovah’s witnesses and incidentally some may identify themselves as Christians with prompting.

    Jehovah’s witnesses are not even allowed by the WTS to put the word “Christian” on the signs over their Kingdom Halls.

    *** km 4/79 p.4***

    Is it appropriate to have a Kingdom Hall sign saying: “Kingdom Hall of Jehovah’s Christian Witnesses”? So there will be uniformity, the Society encourages all to make their signs read: “Kingdom Hall of Jehovah’s Witnesses.” (See October 1978 Our Kingdom Service, page 3, paragraph 5.)

    At one point the WTS did use the phrase “Jehovah’s Christian Witnesses” but eliminated that by 1986 with 2 brief mentions. By 1987, the WTS did not use the phrase except in direct quotes from previous publications. Why?

    START OF ARTICLE

    1, 2. (a) “The Israel of God” mentioned at Galatians

    6:16 represents whom? (b) At Matthew 19:28,

    whom do “the twelve tribes of Israel” represent?

    WHEN you read the name Israel in the

    Bible, what comes to your mind? Do

    you think of Isaac’s son Jacob, who was renamed

    Israel ? Or do you think of his descendants,

    the ancient nation of Israel? What of

    spiritual Israel? When Israel is referred to in

    a figurative sense, it usually applies to “the

    Israel of God,” the 144,000, who are anointed

    with holy spirit to become kings and

    priests in heaven. (Gal. 6:16; Rev. 7:4; 21:

    12) But consider the special reference to

    Israel ’s 12 tribes that is found at Matthew

    19:28.

    COMMENTS

    Isaiah 43:10-12 = literal Israelites are called Jehovah’s witnesses

    If only the 144,000 are “spiritual Israelites” only they can truly be called “Jehovah’s witnesses.”

    *** w50 3/1 p.70 par.12***

    Jehovah’s witnesses and their companions testify to the people concerning the Kingdom and its blessings. They call upon the people to join in praising God

    *** w53 4/1p.214par.21***

    Only Jehovah’s witnesses and their associates are bearing the fruits of the Kingdom by public proclamation. (Heb. 13:15) They alone are heralding forth the good news that God’s kingdom under Christ is man’s only hope.

    *** w56 2/1 p.96***

    To be sure, all of Jehovah’s witnesses and their good-will companions will be active this month presenting from house to house

    *** w68 3/15 p.174 par.24***

    And today the anointed remnant of Jehovah’s witnesses and their companions, who serve under the Greater-than-Hezekiah, Christ, find strength and comfort in times of stress in zealous service to God and association together as his temple worshipers.

    2 Jesus said: “In the re-creation, when the

    Son of man sits down upon his glorious

    throne, you who have followed me will also

    yourselves sit upon twelve thrones, judging

    the twelve tribes of Israel.” In this verse, “the

    twelve tribes of Israel” are those who will be

    judged by Jesus’ anointed disciples and who

    are in line to receive eternal life in Paradise

    on earth. They will benefit from the priestly

    services of the 144,000.

    COMMENTS

    Note that the WTS says the anointed will not judge until they are resurrected to heaven or be priests until then.

    *** w09 1/1 p.10***

    The Bible book of Revelation says that 144,000 individuals would be resurrected to heavenly glory to serve alongside Jesus as priests, judges, and kings. (Revelation 14:1, 4; 20:4, 6)

    3, 4. What fine example have faithful anointed

    ones set?

    3 Like the priests and Levites of old,

    anointed ones today view their service as a

    privilege. (Num. 18:20) The anointed do not

    expect to be given some territory or location

    on earth as a possession. Instead, they look

    forward to being kings and priests in heaven

    with Jesus Christ. They will continue to

    serve Jehovah in that assignment, as indicated

    by what we read at Revelation 4:10, 11

    concerning the anointed in their heavenly

    position.—Ezek. 44:28.

    COMMENTS

    Even female anointed will be kings…though one elder said that they would only judge women….

    4 While on earth, anointed ones live in a

    way that gives evidence that Jehovah is their

    share. Their privilege of serving God is of

    primary importance to them. They exercise

    faith in Christ’s ransom sacrifice and follow

    him continually, thus ‘making their calling

    and choosing sure.’ (2 Pet. 1:10) Their individual

    circumstances and abilities differ.

    Yet, they do not use any limitations as an excuse

    to do only a small amount in God’s service.

    On the contrary, they give high priority

    to God’s service, doing all they can. And

    they set a good example for those who hope

    to live on a paradise earth.

    COMMENTS

    Paradise earth

    Do anointed jws set a good example? Do the governing body and people at Bethel put their personal preaching first?

    Did Paul, Peter, James, John, and Jude say “Jehovah” was their share or that they were slaves of Christ?

    So what limitations would not be an excuse for a small amount in God’s service (translation: time on a slip)

    I remember a story of a brother in a coma whose family put WT publications by his bedside in the hospital and counted time each month for him.

    by ill health or the limitations of old age

    have challenging circumstances, such as advancing age, poor health, family or other obligations. We can find comfort in knowing that Jehovah God is pleased when we do all that is within our reach.

    opposition, apathy, or ill health

    *** w08/15 p.29***

    On the other hand, we should be careful not to become too lenient with ourselves, using our perceived limitations as an excuse for slowing down more than is necessary in the Christian ministry.

    God may be pleased but the WTS is not.

    5. How can all Christians have Jehovah as their

    share, and why might that be challenging?

    5 Whether we have the heavenly hope or

    an earthly one, we must ‘disown ourselves

    and pick up our torture stake and continually

    follow Christ.’ (Matt. 16:24) Millions who

    look forward to life in Paradise on earth are

    worshipping God and following Christ in

    that way. They are not content to do just a little

    when they sense that they can do more.

    Many have been impelled to simplify their

    life and have become pioneers. Others manage

    to pioneer some months each year. Still

    others, while unable to pioneer, exert themselves

    in the ministry. Such ones are like devoted Mary,

    who poured perfumed oil on Jesus. He said:

    “She did a fine deed toward me.

    . . . She did what she could.” (Mark 14:6-8)

    Our doing all we can may not be easy, for we

    live in a world dominated by Satan. Yet, we

    exert ourselves vigorously and put our trust

    in Jehovah. Consider how we do so in four

    specific areas.

    COMMENTS

    Christians = only jws although they seem ashamed to name themselves that but rather jws

    Slaves of Christ mentioned only 28 times on the 2009 WT-CD; slaves of God/Jehovah over 150 times

    Who decides what is “all we can do”?

    The elder with millions, does his pioneering mean much when he gives his “surplus.”

    Or the sister whose non-jw husband takes her on cruises and trips to Europe, who has no children and has never worked secularly?

    Or should all jws be pioneering based on this statement? And where is Japan now, decreasing in numbers in jws, hours, bible studies.

    *** w87 2/1 p.15 par.1***

    “A FEW years ago, many of us thought that only those with special circumstances could pioneer,” wrote a pioneer, or full-time minister, in Japan. “It seems we were wrong. We are learning that only those with special circumstances cannot pioneer.”

    Seeking First God’s Kingdom

    6. (a) How do people in general show that their

    share is in this life only? (b)Why is it better to have

    David’s outlook?

    6 Jesus taught his followers to seek first

    the Kingdom and God’s righteousness. People

    of the world tend to seek personal interests

    first as “men of this system of things,

    whose share is in this life.” (Read Psalm 17:

    1, 13-15.) With no regard for their Creator,

    many devote themselves to making a comfortable

    living, raising a family, and leaving

    behind an inheritance. Their share is in this

    life only. David, on the other hand, was interested

    in making “a good name” with Jehovah,

    as his son later recommended that

    all do. (Eccl. 7:1, ftn.) Just like Asaph, David

    saw that having Jehovah as his Friend was

    far better than putting his own interests

    foremost in life. He rejoiced in walking with

    God. In our time, many Christians have put

    spiritual activities ahead of their secular employment.

    COMMENTS

    Look around the congregation, who have nice cars, nice homes, take vacations, have nice clothes, etc. Are the elders and their families seeking personal interests. Should people beggar themselves, not have children….like priests and nuns do?

    I’m sure David felt that God should be his friend, after all didn’t he protect David from facing the elders in his time to answer for his adultery with Bathsheba and murder of her husband?

    I remember an elder that was late for every meeting, never prepared because of his employment, yet the elder body gave him a pass. It didn’t hurt that he donated quite a bit of money to the congregation.

    7. What blessing did one brother receive for putting

    the Kingdom first?

    7 Consider Jean-Claude, in the Central African

    Republic. He is a married elder with

    three children. In that land, finding work is

    hard, and most people will do almost anything

    to keep their job. One day, the production

    manager told Jean-Claude to begin

    working nights—starting at 6:30 p.m., seven

    days a week. Jean-Claude explained that in

    addition to supporting his family materially,

    he needed to care for their spiritual welfare.

    He also stated that he had a responsibility

    to help the congregation. The manager’s

    response? “If you are fortunate enough to

    have a job, you must forget all other things,

    including your wife, your children, and

    your problems. You must devote your life to

    your work—nothing but your work. Make

    your choice: your religion or your work.”

    What would you have done? Well, Jean-

    Claude realized that if he lost his job, God

    would look after him. He would still have

    plenty to do in God’s service, and Jehovah

    would help care for his family’s material

    needs. Thus, he attended the next midweek

    meeting. After that, he got ready to go to

    work, not sure if he would even have a job.

    Just then, he got a phone call. The manager

    had been fired, but our brother still had his

    job.

    COMMENTS

    So why did Jean-Claude go over his immediate supervisor’s head. The WTS never says why the manager was fired? Could it be that others were being treated the same way and had the courage to go over the manager’s head?

    I can’t think of one US jw that ever quite their job because of this…probably there are a few. In a town south of me many brothers have jobs on the second shift…to accommodate them a congregation was started that adjusted to their work schedule…too bad Jean-Claude didn’t live in the US. I remember a brother that drove 70 miles one way to attend another congregation who had meetings that accommodated his work schedule.

    8, 9. In what sense can we imitate the priests and

    Levites in having Jehovah as our share?

    8 Some who have been in a situation

    where their job seemed at risk may have

    wondered, ‘Howell I fulfill my responsibility

    to provide for my family?’ (1 Tim. 5:8)

    Whether you have faced a similar challenge

    or not, from your own experience you are

    likely sure that you will never be disappointed

    if God is your share and you highly treasure

    the privilege of serving him. When Jesus

    told his disciples to keep on seeking first

    the kingdom, he assured them: “All these

    other things”—such as what to eat, drink, or

    put on—“will be added to you.”—Matt. 6:33.

    COMMENTS

    You can rest assured that the congregation will not help out a brother or sister who quit their job to go to meetings. They will be told to get government aid.

    9 Think of the Levites, who did not receive

    a land inheritance. Since pure worship

    was their primary concern, for sustenance

    they had to rely on Jehovah, who told them:

    “I am your share.” (Num. 18:20) Although

    we are not serving at a literal temple as the

    priests and Levites did, we can imitate their

    spirit, having confidence that Jehovah will

    provide for us. Our trust in God’s power to

    provide becomes more and more important

    as we move deeper into the last days.—Rev.

    13:17.

    COMMENTS

    The Levites were helped materially by their fellow believers…it was part of the Law; there is no such law in the WT organization.

    Seeking First God’s Righteousness

    10, 11. How have some put their trust in Jehovah

    in connection with their employment? Give an example.

    10 Jesus also urged his disciples to ‘keep on

    seeking first God’s righteousness.’ (Matt. 6:

    33) This means putting Jehovah’s standard

    of what is right and what is wrong ahead of

    human norms. (Read Isaiah 55:8, 9.) You

    may recall that in the past, a number of people

    were involved in growing tobacco or

    selling tobacco products, training others in

    warfare, or producing and selling weapons

    of war. After coming to a knowledge of the

    truth, most chose to change their employment

    and qualify for baptism.—Isa. 2:4;

    2 Cor. 7:1; Gal. 5:14.

    COMMENTS

    Notice how the WTS makes a distinction from being the employer rather than the employee.

    *** w06 3/15 p.24 pars.12-13***

    For example, would a Christian who is a self-employed contractor bid on a job that involves painting one of the churches of Christendom and thereby share in helping to promote false religion?—2 Corinthians 6:14-16. What if on one occasion our employer accepts a contract to beautify a place of false worship? In this case, we would need to consider such factors as the extent of our having authority over what is being done and the degree of our involvement.

    11 Andrew is an example. When he and

    his wife learned about Jehovah, they resolved

    to serve him. Andrew took much

    pride in his job but left it. Why? Because he

    was working for a nonneutral organization

    and was determined to put first God’s righteousness.

    When Andrew left that job, he

    had two children, no income, and enough

    money to last just a few months. From a human

    standpoint, it may have seemed that

    he had no ‘inheritance.’ He searched for a

    job, trusting in God. Looking back, he and

    his family can confirm that Jehovah’s hand

    Jehovah becomes our share when we make his service our

    primary concern is not short. (Isa. 59:1) By keeping their life

    simple, Andrew and his wife have even had

    the privilege of being in full-time service.

    “There have been times when finances,

    housing, health, and just growing older

    have made us anxious,” he says. “But Jehovah

    has always stood by us. . . . We can say

    without a hint of doubt that serving Jehovah

    is, without question, the most noble

    and rewarding human endeavor.”*—Eccl.

    12:13.

    *See Awake! November 2009, pages 12-14.

    COMMENTS

    Notice how the WTS avoids saying he left a military organization and get in trouble with governments over that.

    So Andrew got a job that allowed him to support a wife, 2 children, and regular pioneer…I wonder what kind of job he got.

    12. What quality is needed to put God’s standards

    foremost? Cite local examples.

    12 Jesus told his disciples: “If you have

    faith the size of a mustard grain, you will say

    to this mountain, ‘Transfer from here to

    there,’ and it will transfer, and nothing will

    be impossible for you.” (Matt. 17:20) Would

    you be able to put God’s standards foremost

    if that would result in difficulties? If you are

    uncertain whether you could do so, speak

    with other members of the congregation.

    You will no doubt find it spiritually refreshing

    to hear their experiences.

    COMMENTS

    What difficulties is the WTS thinking of? So do jws have that intimate a knowledge of members financial circumstances or past?

    Appreciating Jehovah’s Spiritual Provisions

    13. When we exert ourselves in Jehovah’s service,

    what can we expect as to spiritual provisions?

    13 If you treasure your privilege of serving

    Jehovah, you can be sure that he will supply

    your physical and spiritual needs, just as he

    provided sustenance for the Levites. Think

    about David. Though he was in a cave, he

    could count on God to provide for him. We

    too can rely on Jehovah even when we

    see no way out. Recall that when Asaph

    came “into the grand sanctuary of God,” he

    gained insight into what was distressing

    him. (Ps. 73:17) Similarly, we need to turn to

    the divine Source of our spiritual nourishment.

    Thus we show appreciation for our

    privilege of serving God no matter what our

    circumstances may be. We are thereby letting

    Jehovah be our share.

    COMMENTS

    What about serving Christ? Or being a “slave of Christ”?

    David so no way out of his adultery becoming known except to kill the woman’s husband.

    Turn to God or the WTS for spiritual food? Is that why the presence of Christ was said to be 1874 until 1943 when the WTS changed it to 1914, but said in 1993 that they had consistently said it was 1914. I wonder what other things weren’t quite so accurate?

    14, 15. How should we respond when there is increased

    light on certain scriptures, and why?

    14 How do you react when Jehovah, the

    Source of spiritual enlightenment, sheds

    light on “the deep things of God” found in

    the Bible? (1 Cor. 2:10-13) We have an excellent

    example in the apostle Peter’s reaction

    when Jesus told His listeners: “Unless you

    eat the flesh of the Son of man and drink his

    blood, you have no life in yourselves.” Taking

    those words literally, many disciples

    said: “This speech is shocking; who can listen

    to it?” They “went off to the things behind.”

    But Peter said: “Lord, whom shall we

    go away to? You have sayings of everlasting

    life.”—John 6:53, 60, 66, 68.

    COMMENTS

    WHOM shall we go away to, not WHERE

    How many times has the WTS been “enlightened” as to “generation”?

    http://jwfacts.com/watchtower/generation.php

    15 Peter did not fully understand what Jesus

    said about eating His flesh and drinking

    His blood. But the apostle relied on God

    for spiritual enlightenment. When spiritual

    light on some matter gets brighter, do you

    try to understand the underlying Scriptural

    reasons for the adjustment? (Prov. 4:18) The

    first-century Beroeans received the word

    “with the greatest eagerness of mind, carefully

    examining the Scriptures daily.” (Acts

    17:11) Imitating them will deepen your appreciation

    for your privilege to serve Jehovah,

    to have him be your share.

    COMMENTS

    Where is this light coming from, God? Why does he get it wrong so many times?

    Are jws invited to examine the WTS? (This is the only time uses Acts 17:11 this way)

    *** w81 2/15 p.18***

    How shall we view the spiritual food provided by this “faithful and discreet slave”? Should it be viewed critically—‘Oh, well, it might be true but then again it might not be and so we have to scrutinize it very critically’? Some apparently have felt that way about it. To support their way of thinking they have quoted Acts 17:11, which says of newly interested persons at Beroea: “Now the latter were more noble-minded than those in Thessalonica, for they received the word with the greatest eagerness of mind, carefully examining the Scriptures daily as to whether these things were so.”

    But does this mean that those Beroeans were looking for flaws in the message they were hearing, or that their attitude was one of doubting? Does this set a precedent for regarding critically the publications brought forth by the “faithful and discreet slave,” with a view to finding fault? Not at all!

    We can benefit from this consideration. If we have once established what instrument God is using as his “slave” to dispense spiritual food to his people, surely Jehovah is not pleased if we receive that food as though it might contain something harmful. We should have confidence in the channel God is using.

    Marrying Only in the Lord

    16. How can God be our share regarding the command

    found at 1 Corinthians 7:39?

    16 Another area in which Christians need

    to keep God’s purposes in mind is in applying

    the Bible’s direction to marry “only in

    the Lord.” (1 Cor. 7:39) Many have chosen to

    remain single rather than disregard this divine

    counsel. God kindly takes in such ones.

    What did David do when he felt lonesome

    and seemingly lacked any help? “Before

    [God] I kept pouring out my concern,” he

    said. “Before him I continued to tell about

    my own distress, when my spirit fainted

    away within me.” (Ps. 142:1-3) Similar feelings

    may have surfaced in the prophet Jeremiah,

    who served God faithfully for decades

    as a single person. You may want to study

    his example as discussed in chapter 8 of

    the book God’s Word for Us Through Jeremiah.

    COMMENTS

    So did Jewish men remain single rather than marry a non-Jew? (Of course Jewish men could have more than one wife)

    There was no law or expectation that Jewish men would stay single. They were expected to get married, in fact there is no word in Hebrew for “bachelor.”

    (Deuteronomy 21:10-13) 10 “In case you go out to the battle against your enemies and Jehovah your God has given them into your hand and you have carried them away captive; 11 and you have seen among the captives a woman beautiful in form, and you have got attached to her and taken her for your wife, 12you must then bring her into the midst of your house. She must now shave her head and attend to her nails, 13 and remove the mantle of her captivity from off her and dwell in your house and weep for her father and her mother a whole lunar month; and after that you should have relations with her, and you must take possession of her as your bride, and she must become your wife.

    Naomi’s sons married 2 Moabite women. Not a word of censure.

    (Deuteronomy 23:3) . . .No Am′mon·ite or Mo′ab·ite may come into the congregation of Jehovah. Even to the tenth generation none of theirs may come into the congregation of Jehovah to time indefinite,

    17. How does one single sister cope with occasional

    loneliness?

    17 “I have never resolved to remain single,”

    says a sister in the United States. “I am

    open to getting married when I meet the

    right person. My unbelieving mother tried

    to convince me to marry just about anyone

    who came along. I asked her if she wanted to

    be responsible if my marriage turned out

    badly. In time, she saw that I had a stable job,

    was taking care of myself, and was happy.

    She stopped pressuring me.” This sister at

    times feels some loneliness. “Then,” she

    says, “I try to make Jehovah my confidence.

    He never forsakes me.” What has helped her to trust

    in Jehovah? “Prayer helps me sense that God is real

    and that I am never alone. The Most High of the universe

    is listening, so how could I not feel dignified

    and joyful?” Confident that “there is more happiness in

    giving than there is in receiving,”

    she says: “I try to give of myself to help others,

    not expecting anything in return. When I am thinking,

    ‘What can I do to help this person?’ I

    have inner joy.” (Acts 20:35) Yes, she has Jehovah

    as her share, and she is enjoying her

    privilege of serving him.

    COMMENTS

    Did her mother really think being married to drunken womanizer was better than being single?

    18. In what sense can Jehovah make you his share?

    18 No matter what situation you find yourself

    in, you can let God be your share. As you

    do, you will be counted among his happy

    people. (2 Cor. 6:16, 17) That can result in

    your being Jehovah’s share, as was true of

    others in the past. (Read Deuteronomy 32:

    9, 10.) Just as Israel became God’s share

    among the nations, he can mark you as his

    and lovingly care for you.—Ps. 17:8.

    COMMENTS

    Happy people?

    So where are the happy Christians from the first century?

    Jeremiah’s example is encouraging

    How Would You Answer?

    How can you let Jehovah be your share

    ? by seeking first God’s Kingdom and

    his righteousness?

    ? by showing appreciation for spiritual

    food?

    ? by observing God’s command to

    marry only in the Lord?

    CLOSING COMMENTS

    “Yet, they do not use any limitations as an excuse

    to do only a small amount in God’s service.”

    Does this mean that the time slips are lagging? Maybe the WTS is cooking the books.

    Next week, RAN THE RACE WITH ENDURANCE. A race that has been in the making since 1879 to today, 132 years and no end in sight.

    Love, Blondie

  • JW GoneBad
    JW GoneBad

    Par 16: What did David do when he felt lonesome .......?

    Are they kidding?

    Does the WTBTS forget what David did when he felt lonesome? On one occasion he had a married woman brought up to his room, jumped into her panties, impregnated her and when he couldn't hide it he had the woman's husband killed. (2Sam 11:3,4)

    What a fine example for ones who are remaining single today!

  • blondie
    blondie

    Very good, JW Gone Bad. But then David could have several wives at the same time, even a non-Jewish one per Deut. 21. And when David took Bathsheba, he already had several wives....

  • Slidin Fast
    Slidin Fast

    Thanks Blondie, I can't believe the time and effort you put into this regular revue.

    This para. got me mad, I don't know why, I should be used to it. We know the WT regularly misquote sources to their own ends. Here we have

    a carefully abreviated scriptural quote. If you read Acts 17:11 the Beroeans were examining the bible daily yes. Why? They were checking "as to whether these things were so".

    This encouragement to critical analysis of "new light" is outrageously swept out of the frame. We are directed to swallow unquestioningly whatever nonesense is spooned out. They look

    us straight in the eye and dare us to challenge them. Here is the truth, today's edition, smile or walk away, on your own, into the wilderness. We will close the door behind you.

    15 Peter did not fully understand what Jesus

    said about eating His flesh and drinking

    His blood. But the apostle relied on God

    for spiritual enlightenment. When spiritual

    light on some matter gets brighter, do you

    try to understand the underlying Scriptural

    reasons for the adjustment? (Prov. 4:18) The

    first-century Beroeans received the word

    “with the greatest eagerness of mind, carefully

    examining the Scriptures daily.” (Acts

    17:11) Imitating them will deepen your appreciation

    for your privilege to serve Jehovah,

    to have him be your share.

    So upbuilding!

  • jgnat
    jgnat

    I am wandering around the internet tonight, taking a break from the view of crisp mountains.

    It was great seeing your post again. It is some arrogance, isn't it, to claim exlusivity to the Christian message, but deny the name?

  • ziddina
    ziddina

    Yay! Another article by Blondie!!!

    Thank you, Blondie!!

    flo

  • Ding
    Ding

    Another thread asks if WT studies are brainwashing techniques.

    That question can be answered as follows: "How many of Blondie's questions or comments do you think would be welcome there?"

  • ziddina
    ziddina

    Wow, what an article...

    The first thing I noticed, was the Watchtower Corporation's demands of the Rank & File to do [and give up] more and more and more...

    [paragraph 4...] "While on earth, anointed ones live in a way that gives evidence that Jehovah is their share. ..... Their ndividual circumstances and abilities differ. Yet, they do not use any limitations as an excuse to do only a small amount in God's service. ..... And they set a good example for those who hope to live on a paradise earth. ..."

    Do more, more, more - you 'other' sheep!!

    [paragraph 5...] "Millions who look forward to life in Paradise on earth are worshipping God and following Christ in that way. They are not content to do just a little when they sense that they can do more. ...."

    The Watchtower corporation wants more, More, MORE out of you!!

    [also paragraph 5...] "Many have been impelled to simplify their life and have become pioneers. Others manage to pioneer some months each year. Still others, while unable to pioneer, exert themselves in the ministry. ..... Our doing all we can may not be easy, for we live in a world dominated by Satan. Yet, we exert ourselves vigorously and put our trust in Jehovah. ..."

    More, MORE, MORE!!!

    [paragraph 6] "People of the world tend to seek personal interests first as "men of this system of things, whose share is in this life." ... With no regard for their Creator, many devote themselves to making a comfortable living, raising a family, and leaving behind an inheritance. Their share is in this life only. ...."

    Hooo, brother.... There's a repeat of that attitude, displayed in a previous magazine, that simply providing for your needs and those of your family is somehow SINful... Watchtower Corporation wants More, MORE, MORE!!!

    [also paragraph 6...] "David, on the other hand, was interested in making "a good name" with Jehovah, ..... David saw that having Jehovah as his Friend was far better than putting his own interests foremost in life. He rejoiced in walking with God. In our time, many Christians have put spiritual activities ahead of their secular employment. ..."

    And as Blondie pointed out, David's many sins demonstrated his REAL intents towards "Jehovah's" laws... Along with his ruthlessness in obtaining the throne of Israel - yeah, that's really putting "material" concerns behind him...

    Paragraph 7 is pure "Andre"... As is paragraph 8... Paragraph 9 has a real 'stinker' of stupidity, as Blondie pointed out.... The Levites were supported by the other TWELVE TRIBES - guess Watchtower Corporation better liquidate some of its assets; they need to start paying the average pioneer SUPPORT while they're preaching, if they are truly to imitate the Levites' example...

    And in paragraph 11 - look!! ANDRE is back - er, "Andrew"...

    "Andrew is an example. ..... Andrew took much pride in his job but left it. .... When Andrew left that job, he had two children, no income, and enough money to last just a few months. ...... He searched for a job, trusting in God. ..... By keeping their life simple, [HOW simple?? Do they get to EAT every day???] Andrew and his wife have even had the privilege of being in full-time service. "There have been times when finances, housing, health, and just growing older have made us anxious," he says. "But Jehovah has always stood by us. . . . We can say without a hint of doubt that serving Jehovah is, without question, the most noble and rewarding human endeavor." ..."

    You'll notice that he frankly states that he and his wife feel "anxious" about their financial situation, about their health, and growing older [is he perhaps wondering where this "new world" is, wherein he is supposed to become youthful and healthy forever??]

    Zid

  • ziddina
    ziddina

    My apologies to all who believe that the bible is the divinely-inspired literature of the only "real" 'god', but this scripture is a REAL 'setup' to FAIL...

    "...Jesus told his disciples: "If you have faith the size of a mustard grain, you will say to this mountain, ‘Transfer from here to there,' and it will transfer, and nothing will be impossible for you."..."

    Now, I actually tried something like this when I was a kid... In one of my less lucid moments, when I thought that I actually BELIEVED in it all...

    And obviously, NOTHING happened... And nothing ever WILL happen...

    So, either this is another "parable" - 'Jesus' wasn't speaking literally - or he's set up ALL of his followers, down through time, for an absolute FAIL...

    No matter HOW great their "faith" - and some have indeed been of GREAT faith - people will ALWAYS fail at this. As they will probably also fail at any form of "mountain-moving", symbolically speaking...

    Being set up to fail is called "double-bind communication", in modern jargon - and it is a FAVORITE tool of cults and manipulators...

    Zid

  • PaintedToeNail
    PaintedToeNail

    Thank you Blondie, once again thought provoking comments.

    CJ

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