If the Dubs can do this why can't we?

by Mindchild 11 Replies latest jw friends

  • Mindchild
    Mindchild

    Have you ever been annoyed by the dubs bragging about how quickly they can build their Kingdom Halls (sometimes a weekend project) for so little money? I’ve heard them boast that this is proof of being blessed by God’s spirit. Well we know that is B.S. but I wanted to float an idea out here to suggest something more constructive, both literally and figuratively. Namely, if the dubs can build Kingdom Halls in a few days, why couldn’t we form a house-building club and do the same thing for ourselves?

    Many of you already know that Wendy (Mommy) and family along with a few others and myself have started working on our plan to earn lots of money here this year and then relocate to a private island a few hours away by air. After looking at the house rental costs in Florida to provide housing and workspace for everyone we soon came to realize that what we would pay out for housing rent in one year, could very well pay for a few modest do-it-yourself kit homes. Even better, we realized that these same homes are what is called demountable, meaning that they can be easily be taken apart again and put back together in a new location. So, we can construct these homes here, have them pay for themselves for what we would pay out in rent over the course of a year, and then transport them with us to our island and use them for housing there while we build our more upscale homes, and then finally convert these kit homes into guest housing that we will rent out for income, like a bed and breakfast type arrangement.

    This would make an excellent strategy because these homes would pay for themselves many times over in the course of their lifetime.

    In thinking more about this, I realize that many of us here in the ex-dub community don’t want to relocate outside the country but would enjoy having a home of their own that didn’t cost them anywhere near the going rate for home ownership. If we followed the example of Habitat for Humanity, and created a home building club using the easily transportable demountable houses, then we could share the savings costs by buying the housing kits in quantity along with a trading of our labor in exchange for other skills we may not have.

    With enough competent help, kit homes can go up and be completed in a single weekend. We could barter our time with others in our “club” in exchange for helping them assemble their homes.

    How much do these instant kit homes go for? They range in price from about $7,000 USD on up. It depends upon the materials, design, size, and much more. There are links below to help you explore what is available on the American market (there are many other markets in other countries as well) and this list is by no means complete. Some years back, I purchased a dome home kit for a rather nice 3 bedroom 1850 square foot home and with the property, labor costs, and land costs (5 acres) it came to $44,000 and I sold it one year later for double that amount. If I would have been able to cut the labor costs and land costs, I’m guessing it would have cost me about $25,000 (that includes the interior, utilities, etc.) If I would have been able to get 2 more people to buy a similar kit home, I could have saved another $6,000 off that price.

    Anyway, just wanted to throw this idea out there and see what kind of reaction I get.

    The links to instant housing:

    http://www.durakit.com/

    http://ens.lycos.com/e-wire/Feb00/08Feb0004.html (this is an article about the company above and shows the general pricing)

    http://www.factory7.com/am/lowcost/index.shtml (these guys have various home plans and models but tend to be a little more expensive but nice homes)

    http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~readyh/

    http://www.newageshelters.com/features.html

    http://www.smartspacemod.com/features.htm

    http://www.pacificdomes.com/

    Kind Regards,

    Skipper

  • patio34
    patio34

    Hi Mindchild,

    I've seen other posts by you about this same subject, but didn't respond as i wouldn't want to relocate, esp out of the country. But i am interested in what you have to say about it. Just to let you know that some are curious.

    Pat



    The WTBS-style Race for Life

  • moman
    moman

    Cuz the Dubs have had 150 yrs. to organize their corporation!

  • Englishman
    Englishman

    Mindchild,

    It’s bullshit. Here in Weston super Mare a new KH was opened a couple of years back, and the normal propaganda stuff went into our local rag about how they built it in a weekend, blah blah blah.

    It actually took them over 6 weeks to get the base laid and essential services connected. Then everything was shipped to site ready made, poised for fastening together. On the Saturday a couple of hundred people showed up and clipped a screwed it all together, the only part that wasn’t pre-constructed was the brick skin and roof tiles. 4 brickies and 4 tilers could zip that lot up in a day easy peasy.

    The whole thing is a con, all the work is just done in a different order so that it appears to rise out of thin air.

    Englishman.

    Truth exists;only falsehood has to be invented. -Georges Braque

  • roybatty
    roybatty

    Englishman, you are EXACTLY right! I was on a small elder body and one of the last things that I was involved with as an elder was the congregation's quick build.
    About a two months in advance we prepped the sight and a month later did all the excavating and laid the foundation. A week before the "quick-build weekend" we did a lot of the rough framing. Then, the week of the quick-build hundreds of people showed up to put the pieces together. Of course the regional building committee brothers were there to talk to the media. Yup, they told us that if the media wanted to talk to us that we were to direct them to the regional building committee. Of course, when the newspaper articles came out, it made it seem that these group of multi-racial people built this building over the course of a weekend. And the quotes in the article all came from one brother who was on the regional building committee.
    That whole exp. made it so clear to me that the Watchtower Society is just a big business. I wish that every JW could have the same exp.

  • Pureheart
    Pureheart

    That is why they re-named the 2-day built project to quick-build.

    Pureheart

  • mommy
    mommy

    Interesting idea Skipper. Yet it may not be practical, with so many on this board from all over the world. Now if it was a certain project for those in need, I would try my hardest to be there and make it happen. Most of those houses are very easily put together and don't require many people at all. So perhaps in certain cases it could be done. There are a few single moms out there and other singles, and families in need that would benefit from us making a combined effort to help out. Look how this board came through for me and my family.

    As far as the quick builds I agree with what everyone else has said. Quick build in reality means weeks of prep and just cause the roofs on doesn't mean the inside is done either. Of course the KH are much more complex than the housing you are speaking of. And the price range cannot be beat! I am sure with a few thousand dollars a person could even get a loan for the rest, even with horrible credit, limited income etc. And a few guys and gals could get really good deals on airfare and stay in the existing home of the person before it is built. Kinda cramped for a few days, but well worth the effort!

    Hmmm, would love to hear others ideas on this. Any of you who are really interested, take a look at those links, see if it is doable with your budget. I think it would be great to actually make it work. Course I am really an optimist at heart, can you tell
    wendy

    When I leave, you will know I have been here

  • termite 35
    termite 35

    Thanks Mindchild; these are really interesting. I've been thinking about moving abroad for a long, long time;my better half has'nt!this may be good ammo for me!it's a real shame that the Domes ar'nt really long lasting; they're fabulous, so much light;I'm sure in the right setting and with imaginative landscaping they could all look rather good.they'd certainly appeal as holiday homes,i'm afraid you're a little further than i ant to go... But those Domes in the Spanish climate...Adios!!!!

  • SUSCARRA
    SUSCARRA

    St. Martin...Orient Bay. I could live there with my Sweet Hubby and kids.

    Love that place. To me it's the best beach I've ever been to, and you can meet the nicest 'worldly' people from all over the world. I don't think I've ever seen a dome home there.

  • LB
    LB

    When I was working as a house painter I participated in a "quick-build" of a normal stick framed home. NOTHING was prepared ahead of time other than the grading of the lot. Since it was a union project we wanted to show how well union workers can perform.

    The total time from start to finish was 12 hours and 18 minutes. The time has since been beaten many times but I don't know what the record is now.

    This was using quick dry cement and paints of course. It took a lot of effort and ZERO holy spirit.


    Never Squat With Yer Spurs On

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