How many Facilities & Farms does the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society now own? $

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  • Balaamsass
    Balaamsass

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    11/29/07: The Jehovah's Witnesses who own Watchtower Farms want to expand the current printing and residential campus in the Town of Shawangunk. Paperwork submitted to the town calls for a new 300-unit residential building, a 400-space parking garage and a new recreation building. The project is still in the initial stages. Times Herald-Record/KEN BIZZIGOT

    Published: 8:10 PM - 11/29/07

    By Paul Brooks

    Times Herald-Record

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    Property tax

    exemptions*

    Ulster County "” 14.4%

    Orange County "” 18.72%

    Sullivan County "” 19.03%

    *Wholly exempt, 2006 roll

    Town of Shawangunk — Watchtower Farms wants to add millions of dollars worth of living, parking and support space to its massive complex on Red Mills Road.

    The Jehovah's Witness organization has filed preliminary paperwork with the town of Shawangunk Planning Board. The town wants to be the lead agency on the environmental review of the proposal. The county Planning Board is review that designation at its meeting next week.

    Watchtower Farms wants to add 300 living units, a 400-space parking garage and a three-story building for recreation and equipment. It also wants to add to the existing dining room, laundry and dry cleaning facilities, according to the documents.

    The expansion, if approved, will not take any of the land out of current agricultural use or take land off the existing tax roll, according to Troy Snyder. He is part of the management team at the farm. This expansion would not impact the school district.

    "Some of the residence housing was built in the 60's and 70's, much of it in dormitory style. We are trying to upgrade the living quarters. It's a quality of life issue," he said. The parking and support services go along with that work.

    The work would begin next year or perhaps even later. "We haven't gotten to that stage at this point," he said. Snyder did not have an cost estimate yet.

    The farm is exempt from property taxes, according to town officials. If the property was taxed, the bill would be about $2 million.

    On the other hand, "You can't get better neighbors," said Shawangunk Assessor Curt Schoeberl. Watchtower has helped the town build a park and rail trail. When winds downed trees all over town, Watchtower sprung into action with its equipment and people to help, Schoeberl said.

    Such religious and other groups are under heightened scrutiny from town officials. A recent court ruling allows governments to reject the property tax exemptions in some cases. Assessors will be taking another look at some organizations as a result, Schoeberl said.

  • Balaamsass
    Balaamsass

    New York Times : In the Region: Putnam County; Watchtower Project Grows in Patterson

    By MARY McALEER VIZARD
    Published: April 18, 1993

    NINE years ago, when the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society -- Jehovah's Witnesses -- bought 670 acres in the Town of Patterson in Putnam County for an educational center, residents were worried about the effect on their pastoral community.

    Today, even though half the complex has been completed, residents are still waiting to feel the effects.

    "They're really totally self-sufficient in there," said Donald Striffler, a member of the town planning board. "They don't use many town services and by all accounts they haven't spent much money in our retail areas."

    When the society moved into town to start building the complex, it had to buy or lease a great deal of residential property, according to Sara Stubbins, general manager of Jinnel Real Estate.

    "They needed large houses with lots of sleeping quarters in order to accommodate the people doing the construction," she said. "But once they built their own housing, the real estate boom was over."

    All the building on the church-owned land is being done by a volunteer force of 500, according to Kent Fischer, facility manager for the project

  • poopsiecakes
    poopsiecakes

    So let me get this straight...a congregation decides they need a new KH. They apply to the WT headquarters and get a loan. They pay the loan back (with interest) and the deed gets turned over to the WTBS. 20 years later, they need another new building, the existing property gets sold and all money goes to the WTBS and the process starts again. Is that how it works?

  • undercover
    undercover

    So let me get this straight...a congregation decides they need a new KH. They apply to the WT headquarters and get a loan. They pay the loan back (with interest) and the deed gets turned over to the WTBS. 20 years later, they need another new building, the existing property gets sold and all money goes to the WTBS and the process starts again. Is that how it works?

    A publishing company looking to stay alive... so they turned to real estate. Buy it, build on it, hold on to it for 20 years, sell it for profit. And the great thing is that you get some sucker to pay the building costs, the mortgages and upkeep and remodeling every few years and you're out hardly any money at all.

    oh yeah.... *pokes* Poopsie

  • Balaamsass
    Balaamsass

    Watchtower Bible and Tract Society of NY Pay $3.2M for Flex Building

    International Paper Company Sells Research and Development Facility in Tuxedo Park By Erica Doll September 21, 2011

    Watchtower Bible and Tract Society of New York, a non-profit association, acquired the flex building in Tuxedo Park, NY from International Paper for $3.2 million, or about $17 per square foot.

    The building was delivered in 1969 at 1422 Long Meadow Road. It totals about 184,900 square feet on 50 acres in the Orange County Industrial submarket.

    RJ Smith from R.J. Smith Realty represented the buyer. Stephen Perfit and Peter Malone from Pyramid Hudson Valley NY Brokerage represented the seller.

    Please see CoStar COMPS #2160712 for more information on this transaction.

  • Balaamsass
    Balaamsass

    Jehovah's Witnesses to exit Brooklyn for Orange County This is the former International Nickel Co. site in Warwick that the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society purchased two years ago to be the site of its new world headquarters. The former International Nickel property is about six miles from the society's latest purchase, the one-time International Paper property in Tuxedo. CHET GORDON/Times Herald-Record

    By Alyssa Sunkin Times Herald-Record Published: 2:00 AM - 08/25/11

    The Jehovah's Witnesses organization is moving forward with its plans to move its world headquarters to the Town of Warwick. As a precursor to that move, the organization has scooped up a piece of nearby Tuxedo real estate that has sat vacant for years.

    The Watchtower Bible and Tract Society of New York — part of the global Watchtower organization — recently purchased the former International Paper building and 50 acres of land on Long Meadow Road for $3.2 million, according to Steve Perfit of the Cushman and Wakefield-Pyramid Brokerage Co., the firm that represented Watchtower in the deal.

    That site is about six miles from the International Nickel Co. site in Warwick, where the Jehovah's Witnesses want to relocate from the current headquarters in Brooklyn.

    "Our Brooklyn footprint is large, (and) not efficient anymore, and the work we do now is administrative, office-related, there's no industrial component anymore," Watchtower spokesman Richard Devine said. "As a result, it seemed like a good fit to consolidate and create a much more efficient, much more environmentally friendly complex."

    Property in two towns

    Watchtower intends to use the International Paper property to support construction efforts at the Warwick property it acquired two years ago. Long-term plans for the International Paper property remain unclear.

    "It seemed ideally suited for staging a lot of the temporary construction facilities we would need in order to build the site down the road," Devine said. "It seemed like a good fit for us."

    International Paper wound down its operations at the 184,900-square-foot facility — part offices and labs and part warehousing and factory floor — in mid-2004, amid layoffs and an overhaul of its product development operations. It's been empty since 2007.

    Watchtower has applied to the Warwick Planning Board to demolish two existing buildings on the International Nickel site and build eight new buildings — an administrative office building, four residences, a maintenance building, a vehicle maintenance building and a three-level, partially enclosed parking garage.

    The organization also proposes several small outbuildings for recreation, recycling, visitor conveniences and maintenance. The buildings, to be constructed on about 45 of the former International Nickel property's 253 acres, are intended to be sustainable and eco-friendly.

    Environmental review process

    The proposal is going through the state's environmental review process. Only Warwick officials commented on a draft environmental impact statement during a public comment period that ended Aug. 3, and Watchtower is in the process of answering those comments in a final impact statement.

    Since the review process is ongoing, the group has yet to set a target date for when it would move into its new Warwick headquarters.

    Should development be approved, that would mean most — if not all — of Watchtower's operations would be located in the Hudson Valley. Watchtower moved all of its printing operations to a facility in Shawangunk in 2004, and also maintains properties in Putnam and Rockland counties.

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    Jehovah
    I have watched this American made 130 year old religion disrupt peoples lives. Everything looks great at first but later the real Truth begins to show. That of domination from a few old men from headquarters and having your family friends and associates being held hostage if they ever dare challenge the leadership. Truely this is a frightening high control group.
    Lying to unbelievers a Jehovah's Witnesses protocol known as 'theocratic warfare' is routine same as Moonie cult practice of 'heavenly deception'.
    Like Scientology JW defense mainly consist of hovering like moths to a flame around google news alerts on JW Watchtower news articles and posting attack flame obfuscations and stalking EXJW.

    Look around…. Tuesday, August 30, 2011, 2:36:44 PM Flag Like Reply Delete Edit Moderate Liked by Jehovah
    The city and county pays for roads.
    These areas will be high use roads with weighty trucks.
    The Watch Tower pays absolutely no taxes to maintain any town or county or state services.
    Businesses formerly in the area paid taxes. Those taxes more than paid for upkeep.
    The Watch Tower is a leech in any area that it exists.

    Just like Scientology in Clearwater Florida Tuesday, August 30, 2011, 2:33:04 PM Flag Like Reply Delete Edit Moderate Liked by

  • Balaamsass
    Balaamsass

    UNDERCOVER & POOPSIECAKES- You GOT IT ! "

    "A publishing company looking to stay alive... so they turned to real estate. Buy it, build on it, hold on to it for 20 years, sell it for profit. And the great thing is that you get some sucker to pay the building costs, the mortgages and upkeep and remodeling every few years and you're out hardly any money at all. "

    By calling your Real Estate Development Company "A Religion" You can BUY, HOLD & SELL TAX FREE !!!. Any objections from planning is "Religious Persecution". All LABOR FREE!!! MANY Materials obtained by TAX FREE DONATIONS!!!!!!

  • factfinder
    factfinder

    I have an estimate of the size of the largest branches, if that will help.

    Germany-2 million sq ft. (Includes Printery 550,000-600,000 sq ft)

    Brazil- 1.5 million sq ft (includes Printery 550,000 sq ft)

    Mexico-1 million sq ft (Includes Printery 400,000 sq ft.)

    Japan-1 million SQ ft (Includes Printery 300,000-400,000 sq ft)

    Perhaps someone from these countries can provide more info?

  • factfinder
    factfinder

    I forgot about the Warwick/Tuxedo and Ramapo properties!

    Also, what about Mountain Farm. The society used to have this in Port Murrey, NJ. does anyone know if the society still owns it? And what about the orange Groves in Florida?

  • poopsiecakes
    poopsiecakes

    *pokes Undercover

    So how come nobody sees the giant scam going on around here??? The WTS owns every KH even though the local congregations have paid for it with interest. How come I never noticed this when I was a duped dubbie? ARRGGHHH so frustrating...

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