Is FAITH not just learning to double-down on your mistakes?

by Terry 13 Replies latest watchtower beliefs

  • Terry
    Terry

    A person of FAITH is loyal.

    A person of FAITH will not give up.

    A person of FAITH considers it an act of love to refuse to let go.

    And yet, the definition of insanity is refusing to change when confronted with disproof!

    Jehovah's Witnesses are taught LOYALTY to the Organization.

    Jehovah's Witnesses are confronted with propects of persecution by odd doctrinal views that set them at odds with others.

    Being obstinate about quirky views is a badge of their FAITH.

    From 1968 through 1975 the test of FAITH was telling the world about a momentous fiction described as THE END OF 6,000 YEARS OF HUMAN EXISTENCE.

    It was, of course, utterly silly and a non-event which totally back-fired. Why? Because it was superficially linked to ARMAGEDDON

    A rational and sane person learns from mistakes.

    Jehovah's Witnesses doubled-down on this public embarassment. They refused to acknowledge it as false-prophecy. Instead, they viewed it as a mere

    demonstration of faithful zeal!! Leaders got carried away with zealous eagerness for the Thousand Year reign of Jesus Christ!

    No big deal!

    Being compelled to remain LOYAL to error is the same as being forced to become insane.

    Without the ability to CHANGE from error to new behavior we lose the corrective mechanism that is survival for sanity.

    Is FAITH not just learning to double-down on your mistakes IF YOU mistakenly link LOYALTY to what is nothing less than STUPIDITY?

    Loyalty is only a virtue when applied to positive, healthful, upbuilding, beneficial causes.

    Any behavior that blows up in your face and makes you a liar to millions of people is NOT something worthy of loyalty IF YOU ARE SANE.

  • AK - Jeff
    AK - Jeff

    Good point. I think it could apply far more broadly than just to Jehovah's Witnesses.

    Jeff

  • designs
    designs

    Of the 7 billion of us on the planet how many have some religion.

  • still thinking
    still thinking

    Too many designs...too many

  • LostGeneration
    LostGeneration

    Its one hell of a tightrope to walk if you are in the org.

    On one hand, its "The Last Days." You are a special one picked to participate in a preaching work that will never to be repeated! Your leaders get holy spirit, and everyone else among false religion gets a big fat nothing!

    On the other hand, the "Last Days" have been going on for a long, long time, 97 years and counting. The message being preached is mundane, and quite watered down compared to some of the stuff they used to hand out. And despite all of that holy spirit, your leaders keep flipping and flopping around on "generation" "blood" and other pillars of the religion. Is God bi-polar, or maybe, just maybe are your leaders scamming you?

    The pressure is enough to make a sane person actually stop and actually think! But then comes the hard part, stay in and be nice and comfy, or leave and deal with the fallout.

  • thetrueone
    thetrueone

    Interesting thoughts Terry

    The other side of the story is whom the WTS. deems as being mentally diseased, which are people they identify who question their doctrines and their

    self recognized authority of power handed to them from god.

    Another of the their expressive maligning ways in controlling people by using fear as a tool.

    People who accept and support their stated lies and deceptive corruption are said to be mentally healthy, people who reject them

    are said by them as being mentally diseased. This is also where personal corruption creeps in, when people hold up an organization which they are

    playing a supporting role in, as an effert to self create their own self image around themselves.

    Not too sure thats being insane or just being intellectually dishonest.

  • shepherd
    shepherd

    Faith is what you use when you don't have any facts, or there are facts that contradict your point of view, but you still want to stubbornly believe something. It's the last resort religious people turn to when all else fails them. It's like a get out of jail card.

  • N.drew
    N.drew

    When a person goes to college they do so because they believe they will graduate. They do not know they will graduate. They do not know they will get a better job at graduating. But they go for graduating and getting a job (usually, I realize some people go just to take a class and learn..). It's called faith. The assured expectation of things hoped for (graduation), the evident demonstration (good grades) of realities (a better job) though not beheld. The belief their going to college will not be a waste of time can be called faith (imo).

    I realize you all are talking about faith in other worldly things, but faith for good things should not be talked down about imo.

  • Terry
    Terry

    When a person goes to college they do so because they believe they will graduate. They do not know they will graduate. They do not know they will get a better job at graduating. But they go for graduating and getting a job (usually, I realize some people go just to take a class and learn..). It's called faith.

    I would substitute the word "confidence" as more precise.

    Faith relies heavily on what is non-evidential constantly. Confidence is an investment in something increasing.

  • WTWizard
    WTWizard

    The witlesses made a big deal about 1975--which turned out to be even less significant than Y2K which at least had a few computers giving errant results based on errant dates. In 1975, things simply went on as if nothing was wrong--and 1976 came, leaving many witlesses in debt after having sold out to pious-sneer before 1975.

    How many people were left in debt after pious-sneering after Y2K?

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