WT: "Don't be a FOOLISH Christian and OWN things!"

by cedars 23 Replies latest jw friends

  • 00DAD
    00DAD

    When I was doing financially well, I made substantial contributions to the WTBTS because (at the time) I thought it was the right thing to do.

    After 9/11, a retail business I had failed and I ended up several hundred thousand dollars in debt. It took many years to recover (and in some ways I still have not), but during all that time I never received any financial aid or assistance from the WTBTS or anyone else in the Org even though many were aware of my financial situation. Ya' know, not that I EXPECTED anything, I've always tried to be self-sufficient ...

    But I do remember thinking at that time, "God (the WTBTS) is happy to take, but not give!" What's up with that?!?

    I'm just sayin' is all!

  • wha happened?
    wha happened?

    good point 00DAD.

  • breakfast of champions
    breakfast of champions

    I realize what I am about to say carries no intellectual value with regards to the stated topic, but. . . .

    THESE PEOPLE ARE A BUNCH OF FUCKING MANIPULATIVE ASSHOLES.

    . . .sorry, couldn't help myself.

  • Billy the Ex-Bethelite
    Billy the Ex-Bethelite

    Now time has passed, and the end has not yet arrived. Do you fantasize about what could have happened had you not made those sacrifices?

    Is this a news flash to the Watchtower reader that the end has not yet arrived? Time has passed, proving Watchtower prophecies to be all lies. What were "those sacrifices" for? Obviously not to God. The sacrifices I made were to a printing company that claims to be "God's channel".

    Do I fantasize about what could have happened if I hadn't wasted decades slaving for that lousy corporation? Not much. I'm coming to terms with the fact that I and my family were swindled by a cult. Now I'm getting on with life. And it's a pretty good life once I stop looking at the future and the world through the warped Watchtower lens. I don't need to sit around fantasizing, I'm livin' the dream, baby!

  • sd-7
    sd-7
    I don't need to sit around fantasizing, I'm livin' the dream, baby!

    Amen to that, bro! I feel richer just being able to read whatever I want...money is of far less concern than that!

    --sd-7

  • NewChapter
    NewChapter

    Boy are they gonna be pissed off if they ever wake up and realize they don't have a boat on which to celebrate their freedom. They really look foolish to me!

  • WingCommander
    WingCommander

    Hey WatchTower Society Monitors at Bethel, pass on this message to your Governing OverLords:

    I got an education, I have a career (not just a shit job), I have a nice house with a 32x16 pool in the back yard, I have (2) Audis in the garage, I have savings, a 401K, the INTERNET, and my wife just bought me a 70" Sharp LED TV.

    Know what else? I haven't given you warped self-centered manipulative bastards one red cent in 20 years! That's right, not since I was 12, and I never will! If you really think everyone is going to give up their luxuries and live in squalor just to appease you, well now we KNOW you are delusional! Hahahahahaha!

    - Wing Commander

  • karter
    karter

    If it's so bad to own more that 1 property why has the WTS got so much in NY?

    Why own the Kingdom halls?

  • cedars
    cedars

    If it's so bad to own more that 1 property why has the WTS got so much in NY?

    Why own the Kingdom halls?

    karter - precisely, it's interesting that they missed the irony of insinuating that someone is "foolish" simply for owning a portfolio of property, when they themselves are fast becoming the masters of buying and selling property for eye-watering sums of money...

    WingCommander - well spoken!

    sd-7 - again, well said. If anyone is putting emphasis on material posessions here, it is the Watch Tower Society. Think of all the credit card payment machines being installed at Assembly Halls in the US...

    This brings me to another thought - why do they have a massive crystal chandalier hanging over a staircase at the Patterson complex? Anyone know the one I mean? How is that really necessary? Just a thought...

    Cedars

  • WTWizard
    WTWizard

    I never found it objectionable to be rich (unless you get that way by bullying out legitimate alternatives, running scam operations, robbing banks and people, or are otherwise usurping value from people.

    In fact, people that get rich by starting their own honest businesses cannot do so without creating opportunities for others. No matter what business I start, if I am to get very rich, I am going to have to provide others with opportunities to improve their own lives. Usually, this comes from jobs. I know I cannot do enough on my own to make myself rich--even a trade like repairing computers. If I work alone, I might be able to repair 8-12 computers per day and make roughly $750 per day before expenses. By hiring others, I give others the opportunity to make more than what they were making before, plus I get to grow bigger. And, I might even be able to figure out why computers are so prone to problems, develop new software that will catch Microsoft and Apple with their pants down, and create more wealth. Then it will take literally thousands of employees to spread the product around the world. I get very rich, but I create opportunities for thousands in the process.

    At the same time, I create a new product. Once I create a software platform that addresses what Apple and Microsoft are both ignoring, people are now willing to buy my product instead of theirs. They have less down time, fewer repairs for software issues, and they themselves are more productive. If it reaches Third World countries, it could solve their problems with bad bandwidth and bootleg software. This in turn forces Microsoft and Apple to start actually addressing their problems, or go out of business. In turn, anyone that puts out crap software is put on notice that, unless they improve their products, they are next. Products become more reliable, downtime is less common, and businesses are able to put out more without worrying about running into the limits of their software. Everyone wins--except the big companies that refuse to improve their products.

    Now, suppose that, instead, I gave it all up and pious-sneer. I move where the "need" is greater, and get the whole of many African countries into the cancer. I progress and get every single one of the Muslim countries into the cancer, and go on and get China and India into the cancer. What real value does that create? How does that make people better off? I give up riches, not just for myself but for all those who no longer have the opportunity to work with and spread my new super products. Businesses still struggle with software crashes and inefficiencies, and the big companies get away with selling rubbish. Yet, the Kingdumb message is spread into countries where it otherwise would have missed--on obsolete equipment.

    Given that it is impossible, due to human limitations, to get very rich the honest way and not create opportunities for others to improve their lots in life, the Washtowel urging people to sell out and pious-sneer is every bit as bad for the witlesses as Osama Obama's policies. And, if just one person takes this article seriously and we lose a new computer platform, or better yet a cure for all diseases along with putting the Rockefeller Allopathic Medicine system permanently where it belongs (out of business, except in emergency and trauma treatment), it is going to be even worse. When we hold back people that would develop products that would bring society to higher levels, we hold back society at the same time.

    By all means, go for wealth. Go for starting that business you always wanted--even if you have to expatriate to do it. So long as you are honest, you can only create opportunities for others, put upward pressure on wages, and bring up the standard of living for everyone. Which is more than can be said for being a pious-sneer or going to Beth Hell.

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