by dontplaceliterature 24 Replies latest jw friends
Man, not God, is responsible for starvation anywhere in our world.
In that case, man not God is responsible for abundance in other parts of the world. Look, you can't have it both ways. You can't claim god provided food for part of the world, but man deprived food to another part of the world. If god provides food, let him provide food! If he does not, there is no thanks needed.
NC
DPL - Have thought of that since I was a kid. Evidently, I was born atheist.
It used to bug me when at the family dinner table, my father would thank Jehovah for the food, but he would never thank my mother for preparing it.
Man, not God, is responsible for starvation anywhere in our world.
Bullshit, god doesn't get off the hook with that slight of hand.
People have died of hunger as a result of drought or blight for millennia. Even if it is true that it is theoretically possible for us to feed all the hungry right now that is only due to our efforts in improving modern communications and genetically modified food. What about god's thousands of years of laziness and indifference?
Man, not God, is responsible for starvation anywhere in our world.
<<Bullshit, god doesn't get off the hook with that slight of hand....it is theoretically possible for us to feed all the hungry right now that is only due to our efforts in improving modern communications and genetically modified food.>>
Man, not God, is responsible for starvation anywhere in our world.
Likewise, Man, not God, is responsible for his own success with regard to material things.
I might also add that if you think that there is no scriptural precedent for God being the culprit with regard to famine, spend some more time reading the Hebrew Scriptures. My argument though, is that God is not responsible.
Even per Jehovah's Witness doctrine, this system of things is under Satan's control. So why, then, should I thank him for anything that I get while living under Satan's system? Shouldn't I be thanking Satan? Isn't this a fair question?
Vanderhoven - I assume your question is rhetorical, how about you respond to something I said and then ask a question and I will respond?
For the sake of discussion we are assuming that god exists and it is right to give thanks to her/him for our daily bread.
You claim that god gets off the hook for starvation because we have the potential to feed the world; my point is that this is only a very recent situation.
For thousands of years countless numbers have starved to death due to drought, flood, blight, parasites and swarms of locusts. In parts of the world where there was a surplus people neither knew about the disasters unfolding elsewhere nor had the means to help if they had.
During all those millennia the faithful gave thanks to god for their food oblivious to the plight of others in distant parts of the world. Meanwhile god did nothing to help the starving. What a hypocrite god is.
Perhaps you would be good enough to respond to my point?
Well then, since god does not exist, theoretically and by your own admission, whose responsibility should it be to end hunger?
It would be man's. I'm not sure man is up to the task. The question isn't whether or not God WILL do anything about the situation, it's whether or not he HAS anything to do with it. Or in other words:
IF God is DIRECTLY responsible for our material success (or in this case, our full bellies) and deserves to be thanked in prayer, is he not ALSO DIRECTLY responsible for the lack that others have?
You would say "No", Vanderhoven7, "Those people are a victim of circumstance." On this point, I would agree with you.
However, it then follows that anyone who has material prosperity (measure that how you wish) benefits from their circumstance, rather than being victimized by it. So, why thank God? Does he only intervene on behalf of those who are wealthy? If so, he's a real prick - just sayin'.
<<I assume your question is rhetorical>>
Why assume that? The earth has always had sufficient means to support all human life. Man could and can alleviate world hunger. Therefore man is responsible for not doing so. Stop blaming a god you believe doesn't exists....and admit the truth.
Who is really responsible for hunger in our world?
You have totally ignored my point. Typical christian apolgetics.
