Leaving JW Tracts at the Funeral Visitation

by OnTheWayOut 20 Replies latest watchtower beliefs

  • OnTheWayOut
    OnTheWayOut

    JW's cannot help themselves. A couple who were very close friends with my wife and I when I was a JW had a few kids that grew up. None of their kids remained JW despite their heavy activity while growing up. One of their sons is married with some children of his own. His baby died and because the son was not a practicing JW, I decided to accompany my wife to the visitation.

    So to be clear- the mother and father of the child are not JW's. But tons of JW family were there. I did notice that there were virtually no JW's who were not family. I think they were unsure if the son was disfellowshipped or never baptized. (This one was never baptized.)

    Well, of course someone (or more than one someones) couldn't help themself and put the WHAT HOPE FOR DEAD LOVED ONES tracts out on the tables. I can say that while I was there, absolutely nobody picked one of them up. I imagine some pioneer was even "counting their time" if they are the one who put them there.

    Many family members were elders in their perspective congregations. Only one from my wife's congregation (technically, the congregation I am an inactive member of) was there because he was related to the family by marriage. Except for him (knowing I am not DF'ed), most of the elders seemed to keep their distance from me, possibly because they didn't know if I were DF'ed or not, also possibly because I didn't wear a suit to a visitation. I was dressed nicely, though. Many non-JW friends and family didn't wear suits either.

  • james_woods
    james_woods

    Pathetic, OTWO.

    But you did the right thing, and you have the higher ground.

  • Broken Promises
    Broken Promises

    The poor guy and his wife. Not only do they have the unbearable grief of losing a child, but they have to put up with the JW crap aka "encouragement about the resurrection" as well.

  • Twitch
    Twitch

    Yea, hear that. FUBAR

    My uncle died a couple years ago. Unlike both my parents, he was not a JW nor was he ever but he was "favorable" to the witness beliefs according to my mother. I saw it as that he wasn't opposed to it and her beliefs. He accepted my mother as she was and listened to the pitch but lived without religion whatsoever, despite my mother's attempts at recruiting him. He was a nice guy, quiet and contemplative, honest and sincere. He drank but was never violent or abusive that I saw. He had a few friends but basically died alone in poverty.

    Since there was no other family locally, my parents arranged a service at the funeral home. The first thing I saw upon entering were tracts laid out on a table in the foyer. I wasn't surprised at this but didn't care for it naturally. There weren't many in attendance and only a few people I knew to be his friends but the majority were JWs whom I'm sure didn't know my uncle. There in support of my mother obviously and I could accept that.

    The service was "hosted" by a JW elder as there wasn't really anyone else, at least according to mum. In retrospect, I doubt anyone else was asked. My mother had drafted up a page in memory of her brother, a short biography, some stories to tell, the stuff you usually hear about a person's life at a funeral. None of it was mentioned by the elder who took the opportunity to preach the good news. A JW song was sung and that was it. Nothing about my uncle's life at all. I mentioned it with some "consternation" to my mother who didn't seem to mind and I got the impression that the sermon was more important. Up to that point, I basically ignored the pitch, song and borg members in attendance but that made me angry. I paid my respects to my uncle's ashes and waited it out.

    It's been over 20 years since I've elected to spend any time with JWs other than my parents and didn't know any of them, which was ok by me. The host elder's wife whom I've never met before approached me and struck up a conversation. There was no talk of my brother, our relationship or family. Some very small talk then she started in with the pitch about the state of the world and how things are getting worse and all. I listened politely and remarked that life in this day and age is better in many ways than it has been overall and that most people are essentially decent. She ignored this and continued with the pitch. I rapidly lost interest in continuing the "conversation" and made it fairly clear to her through the always noticable use of body language, primarily a cold stare. I'm a patient and understanding person but have a reputation for speaking my mind with "extreme prejudice" when pressed or offended and I was both at the time. I chose to honor the situation and my uncle's memory instead.

    I went over to the few people who were obviously "worldly" friends of my uncle and talked with them. A much better conversation there. Decent people.

    My mother loved my uncle sincerely and always hoped he would take the "truth". To her, the service was hope in that he might be resurrected as a favorable one or something. Whatever. I shook my head upon leaving and decided to remember my uncle my own way.

    Anywho, enough about me ;) Just thought to relate a similar story. Where the decent and the ignorant both live and die. Here in the Twilight Zone.

  • OnTheWayOut
    OnTheWayOut

    James Woods, thanks. I just wanted to show my sympathy for a young man I knew in his time of loss. He could explain to his grieving wife what all the back-stabbing whispering was about and say that there were some decent people there, also.

    Broken Promises, exactly. The grandfather of the baby, the JW who was my friend, is a wonderful (but still deluded) guy. He started in with a conversation to another JW about Paradise and everyone like this baby being there. It was within earshot of the mother of the baby. It was pathetic.

    Twitch, thanks for relating another typical takeover of a sad situation. In this case, the mother and father arranged for an outsider to speak, a priest of some denomination. I wasn't there for that because, I suppose in respect to all the JW family, it was at the end of the visitation at 9 PM. My wife knew that was coming up and "we have to leave" was said. It was true anyway.

  • truth_b_known
    truth_b_known

    This just shows that many Witnesses have no conscious. That was a heartless thing to do. It was highly inappropriate and unloving. As it was unloving it is therefore scripturally unchristian.

    I had a similar situation, but was not as unloving or inappropriate as the ones here as it was not a funeral. My situation was my academy graduation.

    A fellow cadet was the raised by JW parents, but was completely inactive. Her parents showed up for our graduation ceremony. It just so happened that the cover story of the Awake! being placed in the ministry at that time had to deal with law enforcement. At the reception immediately following our graduation her father attemped placing that magazine were persons, mostly cops, who were in attendance. The article basically put police in a good light, but had testimonials from Witnesses who were cops, but quit to become Witnesses.

    So, after months of classroom training, physical training, blood, sweat, and tears we got to proudly stand as a graduating class. Then we were greated by the moron Witness who wanted to place give us all a magazine that basically said we just wasted our time and we should all quit to become janitors so we can be a nitwit like him.

  • Bangalore
    Bangalore

    Quite a tacky thing to do.

    Bangalore

  • oompa
    oompa

    at my great uncles funeral...annointed supposedly...they gave out pens with scriptures printed on the side and it said "jehovahs witnesses offer free home bible study"....he was in advertising among other things and handed these suckers out all over Pittsburgh when he was alive....ugh.....oompa

  • out4good3
    out4good3

    It infuriates me when I see JWs do that at funerals. It is like theere only goal in life is to constantly plug for the organization.

  • moshe
    moshe

    This is a true commentary on the brassiness of JWs who break all social norms to push the WT literature and WT dogma, in settings that are inappropriate by normal conventions of ettiquette. - and JWs wonder why they are ranked down with dog catchers by the public.

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