Circuitleasing.com hosted on wtbts.org

by Gorbatchov 11 Replies latest jw friends

  • Gorbatchov
    Gorbatchov

    Read some posting about [email protected] related to circuitleasing, the firm selling CO/DO's Buicks in the US.

    Nice to know is the fact that www.circuitleasing.com is hosted on the wtbts.org servers.

    This information makes it clear:

    mx3.circuitleasing.coma208.74.140.17 United Statesmx2.us.jw.org208.74.140.0/24 WBTSNY-NET1-0AS40335 WBTSNY-AS Watchtower Bible and Tract Society of New York, Inc.
    circuitleasing.coma67.215.242.52 United States(none)67.215.224.0/19 AS29761 67.215.224.0/19AS29761 QUADRANET
    ns-soans1.wtbts.org 31 days old208.74.141.4 United Stateswtbts.org208.74.141.0/24 WBTSNY-NET1-1AS40335 WBTSNY-AS Watchtower Bible and Tract Society of New York, Inc.
    ns.wtbts.org
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    nsns1.wtbts.org 31 days old208.74.141.4 United Stateswtbts.org
    ns.wtbts.org
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    ns3.wtbts.org 85 days old (only in zone)208.74.142.4 United States208.74.142.0/24 WBTSNY-NET1-2
    ns2.wtbts.org 507 days old208.74.140.4 United States208.74.140.0/24 WBTSNY-NET1-0
    mx10mx1.circuitleasing.com 26 days old208.74.141.17 United Statesmx1.us.jw.org208.74.141.0/24 WBTSNY-NET1-1
    60mx2.circuitleasing.com 25 days old208.74.142.17 United Statesmx3.us.jw.org208.74.142.0/24 WBTSNY-NET1-2
    60mx3.circuitleasing.com208.74.140.17 United Statesmx2.us.jw.org208.74.140.0/24 WBTSNY-NET1-0
  • cedars
    cedars

    Very interesting, thanks Gorbatchov. However, for me the address given on the "contact us" page is enough to prove the connection. Circuitleasing is clearly just a front for Watch Tower HQ. What I find most distasteful is that they can't admit (i.e. on any of the FAQs) to any connection with re-selling circuit overseer cars, even though the name of the website hints so strongly at it.

    Cedars

  • bats in the belfry
    bats in the belfry

    A question for a better understanding:

    As of January 2012 the WTBTS engages as a car dealership with $1,540,525.-- in expendable assets. Who are these cars sold to? Are they enhancing their capability of converting current liabilities quickly into current assets by selling to the general public, or is it just an purchase opportunity for the next CO/DO they lay off?

  • Gorbatchov
    Gorbatchov

    My perception is that the cars are used bij CO/DO and are replaced every 4 years. So, the name circuitleasing is good, because this is the WTBTS own car leasing company. When the cars are replaced they have to be sold. So in the US, JW's can buy a former CO/DO car, and drive proudly in a former WTS car ((:

    What I know also: in many country's in Africa and Asia, the WTS provide cars for the local branch office. Toyota landcruisers and Toyota minibuses. All these WTS cars are replaced once in the 4 years. Local brother and sisters don't believe it. A 4 year old car is in African eyes a new car. But these cars are replaced, just like a normal leasing company.

    I think that when you have a neutral perception, there is nothing wrong with a lease car. I ave no neutral perception. Because the WTS is pointing their fingers to other religions negatively when it becomes subjects like credit cards accept points at DC's, and lease car's for the clerecy cq. firm officials.

    The funny thing is, when you tell a local JW about the fact that WTS has an own lease company, they will brand you directly as a divider and a possible apostate ((:

    Funny also is to think about Jesus in the first century... maybe he got a donkey, but not a lease horse and wagon!

    Gorby

  • 00DAD
    00DAD

    The worst thing is that they resell them at 15-20% over Blue Book to the people that paid for them in the first place!

  • 2tone
    2tone

    00DAD - in there fact section it says the give a small discount on cars when compared to popular price guides (kbb). I checked the kbb of a car they had listed for 10,000. KBB is 11800. So they may not be ripping people off as we hoped or not hoped.

  • diana netherton
    diana netherton

    I remember about 18 years ago when I was visiting my parents while I was living in the UK

    my grandmother purchased one of those cars. I offered to drive it out of Brooklyn for her.

    She still has the car!

  • 2tone
    2tone

    I still luv the fact they get these cars for free and then sell them back to the people who paid for them. What a racket. Why not give them to one of there special pioneers or something. Its ridiculous

  • snare&racket
    snare&racket

    I once emailed them and asked..

    " Do you ever feel bad selling the car to a JW, knowing they already own it as a member of the WT society?"

    They didnt reply :(

  • straightshooter
    straightshooter

    Of course they have no reply for them selling cars back to jws. There is no reason except to make extra money for the branch.

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