http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zI7AZ1AhHdA&feature=mfu_in_order&list=UL
this is a long series. im finding more and more that JW's are so illequiped for debate, that they cant even make coherent arguments. i feel bad for this kid, it seems like he was ernest and honest with his research, he talks to the elders and they are putting forth arguments that not only are contradictory but dont even make any sense. and this kid has to accept these incoherent arguments or be DF'd and lose his family and friends. its just incredible.