16 yr old Canadian forced transfusions

by Dogpatch 13 Replies latest jw friends

  • Dogpatch
    Dogpatch

    Judge rejects Alta girl's request to stop transfusions due to religion

    CAROL HARRINGTON
    Canadian Press

    Wednesday, February 20, 2002

    CALGARY (CP) - A 16-year-old girl with leukemia will have to continue with life-saving blood transfusions being forced upon her by the Alberta government, a judge ruled Wednesday. "This ruling will mean that she will continue to receive blood transfusions imposed on her against her will by means of restraint and sedation," the girl's lawyer, David Gnam, said outside court.

    "It will be devastating to her."

    The Jehovah's Witness girl doesn't want to receive another person's blood, even though she was diagnosed last week with leukemia.

    The province was given temporary custody of the girl late Monday night by a family court judge after successfully arguing the girl isn't mature enough to reject blood transfusions.

    Gnam was in court Wednesday asking that the blood transfusions be stopped until he appeals the ruling, but Court of Queen's Justice John Rooke refused to grant the girl a stay.

    "If she doesn't have the treatment she will suffer irreparable harm," Rooke said. "I acknowledge there is a harm to religious beliefs, but that has to be balanced with right to life."

    Her lawyer said he will appeal, arguing that the girl is a mature minor.

    "She's able to understand and make competent decisions," he said outside court.

    Rooke pointed out the girl received two blood transfusions Tuesday at the Alberta Children's Hospital in Calgary.

    "That harm has already taken place," he said.

    Her lawyer told court the harm to the girl's religious beliefs will be multiplied the more transfusions she has.

    "It's an assault," Gnam said. "If you are assaulted once, does that mean further assaults don't have consequences?"

    An appeal is set for April 25-26.

    The girl's mother and father have opposing opinions over whether their daughter should receive blood transfusions.

    Her father, who wants her to have them, was ecstatic with the court's decision.

    "I'm very happy that my daughter has a chance to live," he said outside court.

    The girl and her parents cannot be named because she is a temporary ward of the province.

    The court heard the initial blood transfusions have markedly improved the girl's red blood cell count, although nurses noted she cried after the procedure. Her father said the new blood made a marked difference in her condition.

    The belief about transfusions stems from Bible passages in which Israelites are instructed not to eat the blood of animals. Jehovah's Witnesses take that to mean they can't allow the blood of any animals - including humans - directly into their bodies.

    Mark Kastner, a spokesman for Alberta Children's Services, said the province stepped in because officials were told the girl would die within days if she didn't get blood transfusions.

    "We'll be working with the doctors with whatever her needs are, as long as we have guardianship," Kastner said.

    Hospital officials said they were unsuccessful in their worldwide search for other possible treatments for the girl's acute myeloid leukemia.

    According to doctors, the girl requires an amply supply of new blood for her chemotherapy treatments.

    Gnam works for the Jehovah's Witnesses head office in Georgetown, Ont.

    In 1995, the Supreme Court of Canada ruled that the state has the right to intervene in a parent's decision to stop a blood transfusion for a child based on religious beliefs.

    Kastner said there have been three similar Alberta cases in the last two years, one in Edmonton and two in Calgary, in which the province stepped in to get temporary custody of children whose Jehovah's Witness parents wouldn't allow blood transfusions for religious reasons.

    "In all of those cases we were awarded temporary custody so that we could allow medical intervention to occur," he said.

    There are 110,000 Jehovah's Witnesses in Canada.

    © Copyright 2002 The Canadian Press

  • hawkaw
    hawkaw

    Thanks Randy,

    There is another thread running this too.

    hawk

  • Dutchy
    Dutchy

    I'm so glad that the Court took guardianship of this young girl and forced her to have this lifesaving transfusion. If both parents were witnsses I wonder if the outcome would have been different? The girl is distressed now simply because she has been indoctrinated to feel stress and guilt in relation to this lifesaving blood. What a pity that such a young girl, with so many other things to think about, has to worry about pleasing an organization when her very life is on the line.

  • hawkaw
    hawkaw
    "It's an assault," Gnam said. "If you are assaulted once, does that mean further assaults don't have consequences?"

    Lets see now - this bozo, Gnam, is a lawyer. So he should know the Criminal Code of Canada and what the statute defines as "assault". Of course this is NOT an assault. It sure is nice of the society to pick up the "legal fees" for this young lady.

    I wonder what she would think if she actually knew what the doctrine was all about. But she is so busy trying to fight for her life it is the last thing she would want to hear about.

    Odd though - she would fight for her life except in taking a certain type of blood transfusion.

    hawk

  • RunningMan
    RunningMan

    In my mind, there are varying levels of culpability for the blood doctrine. This ranges from the elder who passes out the blood cards, to the members of the HLC, right up to the governing body.

    Personally, this lawyer (Gnam), is one of the lowest forms of ghoul operating on this planet. He is actually trying to commit murder.

    Someday, if he ever wakes up to the reality of the "truth", he will have a very hard time living with himself.

  • concerned mama
    concerned mama

    There are three threads on this topic now!

    I heard the lawyer interviewed this morning by a Calgary talk show host. The laywer was asked if he was JW and refused to answer, saying it wasn't relevent. The lawer case is being built on the issue of a "mature minor". That is someone who is below the age of majority (18 in alberta) but is mature and knowledgeable enough to make decisions about her own body. There have been 2 cases of this already in Alberta, I believe, and in both cases the tranfusions were continued. I think there have been other caes with different issues such as abortion, where the teen was given the right to decide.

    In 1995, the Supreme Court of Canada ruled that the state has the right to intervene in a parent's decision to stop a blood transfusion based on religious beliefs.

    The father researched it, and found no Biblical basis for withholding blood. The Mom and daughter refused the transfusions. That poor Dad could probably use some moral support in this.

    Perhaps someone who is knowledgable about the blood issue could contact the reporter from the local newspapers, the Calgary Herald and Calgary Sun, and the issue of there being supressed contoversy within the JW community should be brought forth.

    This would be an opportune time for some publicity. It is a fairly big story here.

    http://www.canada.com/calgary/calgaryherald/story.asp?id={090E303C-0D94-41E8-AE3A-86A51A984E7E}

  • sf
    sf

    < http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/forum/thread.asp?id=22103&site=3

    If man was supposedly created in gods image, then.....holy krap...we're all doomed.-sKallyWagger

  • hawkaw
    hawkaw
    The father researched it, and found no Biblical basis for withholding blood. The Mom and daughter refused the transfusions. That poor Dad could probably use some moral support in this.

    Perhaps someone who is knowledgable about the blood issue could contact the reporter from the local newspapers, the Calgary Herald and Calgary Sun, and the issue of there being supressed contoversy within the JW community should be brought forth.

    God damn thing is going to be on the CBC National Tonight never mind in the Tornoto Star. I don't have time to be writing letters.

    Well as I said before on another thread - I have sent an Email to someone of importance to get this ball rolling.

    To me the important issue is the "appeal" and not the newspapers. I have sent me Email to hopefully the correct person and hopefully someone will get it too the Dad as well as Crown council. I promise to telephone tomorrow to ensure they got my Email.

    The WTS has a good chance of winning this case because of what happened in New Bruncswick a few years ago with a teenager. Stupid liberal judges and poorly prepared crown council just drive me nuts.

    There are 2 keys to this case is - First she is or is not a minor.
    Second is not "the lack biblical basis" but it is "the lack of scientific basis since 1990" .

    Its a long story and don't have time to talk. But I assure you guys I will get involved.

    hawk

  • Scully
    Scully
    The Jehovah's Witness girl doesn't want to receive another person's blood, even though she was diagnosed last week with leukemia.

    The province was given temporary custody of the girl late Monday night by a family court judge after successfully arguing the girl isn't mature enough to reject blood transfusions.

    Gnam was in court Wednesday asking that the blood transfusions be stopped until he appeals the ruling, but Court of Queen's Justice John Rooke refused to grant the girl a stay.

    "If she doesn't have the treatment she will suffer irreparable harm," Rooke said. "I acknowledge there is a harm to religious beliefs, but that has to be balanced with right to life."

    Her lawyer said he will appeal, arguing that the girl is a mature minor. [Sorry, the Province already proved that she is not.]

    "She's able to understand and make competent decisions," he said outside court. [Not if she's dead, she can't.]

    Rooke pointed out the girl received two blood transfusions Tuesday at the Alberta Children's Hospital in Calgary.

    "That harm has already taken place," he said. [Sad how brainwashing causes so much harm, isn't it.]

    Her lawyer told court the harm to the girl's religious beliefs will be multiplied the more transfusions she has. [Nonsense, once you've tainted a JW with blood transfusions, you're always considered tainted; doesn't matter if it's one unit or 100 units.]

    "It's an assault," Gnam said. "If you are assaulted once, does that mean further assaults don't have consequences?" [Let's ask the victims of elder-pedophiles about that too.]

    The girl's mother and father have opposing opinions over whether their daughter should receive blood transfusions.

    Her father, who wants her to have them, was ecstatic with the court's decision.

    "I'm very happy that my daughter has a chance to live," he said outside court.

    The girl and her parents cannot be named because she is a temporary ward of the province.

    The court heard the initial blood transfusions have markedly improved the girl's red blood cell count, although nurses noted she cried after the procedure. Her father said the new blood made a marked difference in her condition.

    . . .

    Mark Kastner, a spokesman for Alberta Children's Services, said the province stepped in because officials were told the girl would die within days if she didn't get blood transfusions.

    "We'll be working with the doctors with whatever her needs are, as long as we have guardianship," Kastner said.

    Hospital officials said they were unsuccessful in their worldwide search for other possible treatments for the girl's acute myeloid leukemia.

    http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/418660
    states that the median age of patients with AML is the second half of the seventh decade of life, which is part of the reason why there are few other possible treatments for this illness.

    I feel bad for this young lady, hopefully one day instead of grieving over not being able to become a sacrificial virgin for the WTS, she'll be able to look at her own children and be thankful to the government and court system who intervened on her behalf.

    Love, Scully


  • Scully
    Scully

    duplicated in error

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