Worried about my friend

by pharmer 21 Replies latest watchtower medical

  • pharmer
    pharmer

    Thanks guys, I do appreciate.

    It's not the norm that scares me; it's the potential that there can be complications that worries me. If there's any potential for complications, then it's a real possibility...probably it will be fine, but it's the potential that really scares me. I wouldn't worry so much if blood transfusions weren't an issue.

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  • tenyearsafter
    tenyearsafter

    Ditto to what everyone else has said on "keyhole" surgery...I had it last year, and other than the standard consent forms, blood never really came up. If your friend is unfortunate enough to have open abdominal surgery (not typical any longer), then blood might be more of an issue. Even with open surgery, blood loss is not a major concern unless there is a complication which leads to excessive blood loss.

  • its_me!
    its_me!

    Welcome Pharmer!!

    She will almost certainly be disfellowshipped if it is known that she is reading Crisis of Conscience. While there is always a risk with surgery, I know at least four people who have had their gall bladders removed, and everything went very smoothly. I know that is no proof that hers will go off without a hitch, but I just thought I would mention that to ease your mind. Not saying it will, but just in case..... Has she had open conversations with her surgeon to discuss the risks and possible treatments should something go wrong?

  • Kahlua
    Kahlua

    I was scheduled for gall bladder surgery several years ago but cancelled the surgery after hearing from friends/co-workers how removing it can cause problems controlling your bowels. My mother has had that problem ever since her surgery years ago.

    There were two times when I was hurting pretty bad and ended up driving myself to the emergency room the second time. They immediately checked to make sure I wasn't having a heart attack. After ruling that out they left me in the ER for an hour or so. By the time they finally took me to a room the stone had moved or whatever it does and I was fine. They tried to give me pain meds but by then I didn't need it and ended up driving myself back home. In that case it could have been brought on by eating too much ice cream. That is one thing I read that will trigger the 'attacks'.

    I found instructions on the internet how to flush gall stones out and it worked for me. Since doing the flush, I have had no more problems. If the gall bladder is seriously diseased that may not work.

    Your friend may want to do more research and get a second or third opinion on whether the surgery is really necessary.

  • pharmer
    pharmer

    Thank you.

    @its me -- hearing accounts of others' good experiences with the surgery does help ease my mind some...I just have a tendency to worry. It also eases my mind that she now seems willing to look at these issues. I don't think she has met with a surgeon yet, but I'm not certain.

    She is also considering gastric bypass surgery.

    I just am thankful she says she will read Crisis of Conscience. I'm also considering mailing her my copy of Steven Hassan's Releasing the Bonds. Good idea or is that too much info for her to examine and digest at once? I want to be sensitive, but...I feel a sense of urgency to provide her with the resources/material I have.

    Thoughts?

  • Ding
    Ding

    Welcome!

    Sounds like you're doing well.

    Keep encouraging her to investigate all sides of these issues and be her friend no matter what she decides.

  • GOrwell
    GOrwell

    I have the need for some gallbladder surgery, and the way it was explained by my doc and by pictures, the organ is located in a pretty sensitive area with lots of major arteries, so something can go wrong in a hurry and blood may be needed.

  • pharmer
    pharmer

    The DVD about the blood issue that the WTS made, is it a fairly comphrehensive representation of their view?

  • ABibleStudent
    ABibleStudent

    pharmer - I just am thankful she says she will read Crisis of Conscience. I'm also considering mailing her my copy of Steven Hassan's Releasing the Bonds. Good idea or is that too much info for her to examine and digest at once? I want to be sensitive, but...I feel a sense of urgency to provide her with the resources/material I have.

    Welcome ((((((((pharmer))))))) to JWN. I suggest waiting for your friend to tell you how angry she feels after reading COC before you send her Steve Hassan's book. It is better not to appear to threatening to her cult-persona.

    Peace be with you and everyone, who you love,

    Robert

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