Salvation from what?
Death (of the spirit).
Captivity (slavery to sin and its consequences which separate us from God; and captives to men/religion; and captives to fear/hate/anger).
Peace,
Tammy
Does one need to believe in the trinity to have salvation
by free thought 12 Replies latest watchtower scandals
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ProdigalSon
I just got back to New York this past Tuesday after spending nearly three weeks in Cambodia and Vietnam. There are millions of beautiful people over, sweet as can be, who don't know anything about any Trinity. Please don't tell me that you think they're all condemned.
The Trinity can be traced back to ancient Babylon and further still to ancient Egypt more than 10,000 years ago. It has little to do with "God" and "Jesus" and [insert third party of your choosing]. These were metaphysical concepts from those ancient "pagan" religions. You see, before Christianity and the Catholic Church sent us back damn near to the Stone Age when it comes to enlightenment and consciousness, people used to actually be a lot smarter. They knew that these were allegories and if you suggested trying to fit actual Persons into the mix they might have laughed at the idea uncontrollably.
The Founding Fathers of the United States were Deists. They completely understood the Trinity concept.
God manifests himself through human beings who actually become gods, as Jesus alluded to when he quoted from the psalms. People like Pythagoras, considered "God" by many. Socrates and Plato. Perhaps the most enlightened human who ever lived, possibly even more than Jesus, the one slandered in the book of Acts, Simon the Magus had many many of followers, who considered him "God". Just the opposite of what the Bible would have you believe. Why continue to look upon this bronze age collection of jewish myths, filled with blatant lies, as the gospel truth?
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Fernando
Hey free thought!
As Tammy says, salvation means we are saved from bondage (captivity) to dysfunction (sin), sickness, suffering, death, evil and the devil.
And NO, we are NOT saved by achieving supremacist self-righteousness by means of following the "right" doctrines. This apostate notion is called "ethnocentrism" which was at work at Nicaea, and is at work in the Watchtower and all religion.
The trinity and the supposedly "correct" understanding of it has been a big red herring - not only peripheral to salvation but effectively antithetical to it.
It is no accident that religionists promote a counterfeit depleted or "truncated gospel" in place of the full, true and "unabridged gospel".
It is no accident that Watchtower "publishers of the good news" are ignorant of the "good news according to Paul" which makes up more than HALF the Bible's references to the "good news"! This is why they publish religion (doctrine, dogma, moralism, legalism, ethnocentrism, and Gnosticism) instead of the "good news". They are proselytisers (teachers of religion) and not evangelisers (teachers of the "good news").