Irish JW Who's Husband Was Cheating Suffers DF'd & Shunning

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  • BroMac
    BroMac

    http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/ireland/2012/0306/1224312851835.html

    Claim by Jehovah's Witness dismissed - The Irish Times - Tue, Mar 06, 2012

    irishtimes.com Wednesday, March 7, 2012



    </form></form> The Irish Times - Tuesday, March 6, 2012

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    A JEHOVAH’S Witness who claimed she was shunned by other members of her congregation is not entitled to bring an action for slander, the High Court ruled yesterday.

    Ruth Moram, Killarney, Co Kerry, claimed she was “disfellowshipped” from the Killarney congregation after she was accused of slandering her husband by implying he was an adulterer. Her husband denied the accusation, the court heard. Ms Moram had brought proceedings against three members of the congregation, claiming she in turn was slandered in a letter written by one of them to her in December 2009.

    Mr Justice John Hedigan yesterday ruled Ms Moram had shown no cause of action in her claims against Killarney Jehovah’s Witness elders Peter Van Benthem, and Andrew Beeston, or against Jehovah’s Witness Martyn Bell, Firies, who wrote the letter in 2009. The judge also awarded costs against Ms Moram who said she would go to jail rather than pay them and would also appeal the decision to the European Court of Human Rights.

    Mr Justice Hedigan said the case dated back to June 2004 when Ms Moram claimed Mr Van Benthem and Mr Beeston called to her home and accused her of slander without, she claimed, telling her at that stage what the alleged slander was. Later that month, at a meeting of the Killarney congregation, Mr Bell gave evidence of the alleged slander of her husband and as a result Ms Moram was “disfellowshipped”, she said. This meant fellow members were not to associate with her until she repented.

    She appealed that decision internally in August 2004 during which evidence was given that Ms Moram had told a fellow Jehovah’s Witness that a woman, referred to only by initials, had spent weekends away with Ms Moram’s husband, Mr Justice Hedigan said.

    Ms Moram claimed, as a result of that, she was accused of slander in that she implied her husband was an adulterer, the judge said. In a separate meeting, her husband denied the allegation, the judge added.

    Following these hearings, Ms Moram was disfellowshipped. She then wrote a letter of complaint to the branch office in Wicklow and included photographs of her husband on a weekend break in Galway with the other woman, the judge said.

    The branch sent a letter to the appeal committee which changed its decision and told Ms Moram the committee “forgave” her. She refused to accept this on grounds she had not slandered anyone but the accusation had not been withdrawn, the judge said. In February 2010, she formally left the Jehovah’s Witnesses after elders refused to allow her to speak at a meeting, he said. Since then, she claimed, all her Jehovah’s Witness friends had been forbidden to speak to her and she had been brought into public hatred, contempt and ridicule.

    Mr Justice Hedigan said yesterday the proceedings would have had to be issued within three years of the 2004 events but were only issued in 2011. As there was no publication of the letter and no special damage was claimed, Ms Moram had shown no cause of action against the three and her claim must be dismissed.

  • darth frosty
    darth frosty

    Claim by Jehovah's Witness dismissed

    A JEHOVAH'S Witness who claimed she was shunned by other members of her congregation is not entitled to bring an action for slander, the High Court ruled yesterday.

    Ruth Moram, Killarney, Co Kerry, claimed she was "disfellowshipped" from the Killarney congregation after she was accused of slandering her husband by implying he was an adulterer. Her husband denied the accusation, the court heard. Ms Moram had brought proceedings against three members of the congregation, claiming she in turn was slandered in a letter written by one of them to her in December 2009.

    Mr Justice John Hedigan yesterday ruled Ms Moram had shown no cause of action in her claims against Killarney Jehovah's Witness elders Peter Van Benthem, and Andrew Beeston, or against Jehovah's Witness Martyn Bell, Firies, who wrote the letter in 2009. The judge also awarded costs against Ms Moram who said she would go to jail rather than pay them and would also appeal the decision to the European Court of Human Rights.

    Mr Justice Hedigan said the case dated back to June 2004 when Ms Moram claimed Mr Van Benthem and Mr Beeston called to her home and accused her of slander without, she claimed, telling her at that stage what the alleged slander was. Later that month, at a meeting of the Killarney congregation, Mr Bell gave evidence of the alleged slander of her husband and as a result Ms Moram was "disfellowshipped", she said. This meant fellow members were not to associate with her until she repented.

    She appealed that decision internally in August 2004 during which evidence was given that Ms Moram had told a fellow Jehovah's Witness that a woman, referred to only by initials, had spent weekends away with Ms Moram's husband, Mr Justice Hedigan said.

    Ms Moram claimed, as a result of that, she was accused of slander in that she implied her husband was an adulterer, the judge said. In a separate meeting, her husband denied the allegation, the judge added.

    Following these hearings, Ms Moram was disfellowshipped. She then wrote a letter of complaint to the branch office in Wicklow and included photographs of her husband on a weekend break in Galway with the other woman, the judge said.

    The branch sent a letter to the appeal committee which changed its decision and told Ms Moram the committee "forgave" her. She refused to accept this on grounds she had not slandered anyone but the accusation had not been withdrawn, the judge said. In February 2010, she formally left the Jehovah's Witnesses after elders refused to allow her to speak at a meeting, he said. Since then, she claimed, all her Jehovah's Witness friends had been forbidden to speak to her and she had been brought into public hatred, contempt and ridicule.

    Mr Justice Hedigan said yesterday the proceedings would have had to be issued within three years of the 2004 events but were only issued in 2011. As there was no publication of the letter and no special damage was claimed, Ms Moram had shown no cause of action against the three and her claim must be dismissed.

  • BroMac
    BroMac

    thats better thanks,

  • BroMac
    BroMac

    http://www.independent.ie/national-news/courts/jehovahs-slander-action-over-husband-thrown-out-3039908.html

    Jehovah's slander action over husband thrown out

    A JUDGE has thrown out a Jehovah's Witness slander action over allegations she implied her husband was an adulterer.

    Ruth Moram says she was shunned by members -- or "disfellowshipped" -- for allegedly slandering her husband by implying he was an adulterer.

    But she failed in a bid to bring her own High Court action for slander. Ms Moram, of Mastergeeha, Kilcummin, Killarney, Co Kerry, sought damages against three members of the Killarney Congregation of Jehovah's Witnesses.

    She claimed she had been slandered in a letter written by one of them to her in December 2009, which accused her of slandering her husband by the adultery allegation. Her husband denied the accusation, the court heard.

    Mr Justice John Hedigan yesterday ruled she had shown no cause of action in her claims against Killarney Witness elders Peter Van Benthem, Parkavonear, Aghadoe, Killarney, and Andrew Beeston, Coolmagort, Beaufort, both Kerry. He also dismissed a similar claim against Witness member Martyn Bell, of Firies, Kerry, who wrote the 2009 letter.

    The judge also awarded legal costs against Ms Moram who said she would go to jail rather than pay them. She said she would also appeal the decision to the Court of Human Rights.

    In his judgment, Mr Justice Hedigan said the case dated back to June 2004 when Ms Moram claimed Mr Van Benthem and Mr Beeston accused her of slander.

    Later that month at a meeting of the Killarney Witnesses congregation, Mr Bell gave evidence of the alleged slander of her husband, and as a result Ms Moram was "disfellowshipped".

    The court heard that she appealed that decision internally in August 2004 -- and evidence was given in the appeal that Ms Moram had told a fellow Witness that a woman, referred to only by initials, had spent weekends away with her husband.

    Ms Moram claimed that as a result of this, she was accused of slander in that she implied her husband was an adulterer.

    Following these hearings, she was disfellowshipped from the Killarney Congregation.

    Complaint

    She then wrote a letter of complaint to the Witnesses branch office in Wicklow and it included photographs of her husband on a weekend break in Galway with the other woman, the judge said.

    The branch sent a letter to the appeal committee, which changed its decision and told Ms Moram they "forgave" her.

    She refused to accept this, as she insisted she had not slandered anyone and the accusation had not been withdrawn, the judge said.

    The court heard that in December 2009, she claimed that Mr Bell wrote a letter which stated she had slandered her husband.

    The following February, she formally left the Witnesses after elders of the Killarney congregation refused to allow her to speak at a meeting, he said.

    Since then, she claimed, all her Witness friends had been forbidden from speaking to her and that she had been brought into public hatred, contempt and ridicule.

    She then issued proceedings in the Circuit Court seeking damages and a declaration she did not commit slander.

    A Circuit Court judge found the issues raised were beyond the limits of a secular court.

    The judge also said the letter was not published to anyone other than Ms Moram.

    She appealed that decision to the High Court. But yesterday, Mr Justice Hedigan dismissed her case saying the events of 2004 were clearly statute-barred because her proceedings must be issued within three years of the event and she had only done so in 2011.

    - Tim Healy

    Irish Independent

  • Chariklo
    Chariklo

    Typical.

    What are the chances of one woman being able to stand up successfully against the invincible male authority of two elders?

  • mP
    mP

    good old jehovah and his earthly org it never changes. just like the good old days when priests coukd get jehovah to strike ppl dead on the spot. thosevwere the days when women and common folk had no rights. i always knew when god went soft and let the modern world write up new laws, things would chsnge fornthe worse. what was god thinking when he let her walk into a court and speak against a man. a true org of god wouldnt allow this. if she was at home in her menstration hut like it says in exodus we wouldnt have this disharmony.

    shame shame shame, bring back the good old dsys, where priests were gods and elders were priests.

  • 00DAD
    00DAD

    Nice, the elders "forgave" the woman for their mistake. What a crock of you-know-what!

  • steve2
    steve2

    The woman showed she had balls and, as we well know, when women show they have balls, human society in general - and the Watchtower Society in particular, hit back big time: "Hey sister, crawl back into your hole. We'll tell you when you can get out." She stood up and refused to take the Watchtower's misogynistic and patronizng shit. Way to go!

    I hope in time this woman will spend less time licking her wounds and more time thanking her lucky stars that her ex-husband's cheating let her see the harsh and loveless underbelly of Jehovah's loving organization - she has realized to her shock that it wasn't only her husband who was cheating her.

  • Listener
    Listener

    Ruth Moram has taken the Watchtower to court a number of times over this issue. It has now been settled and the Watchtower agreed to an order being issued against them.

    Here is a brief summary from Ruth Moram

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IWpB0Ye97Os

  • Fadeaway1962
    Fadeaway1962

    Thanks for putting the video up for all to see,

    Hopefully it will apply through out the UK and Europe .

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