Strategically, the GB should accept 587

by I Want to Believe 13 Replies latest watchtower beliefs

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  Larsinger58

  587 BCE as year 18 of Nebuchadnezzar is part of the overall distortion of the NB Period. It was distorted by 57 years during his reign by the Persians. The VAT4956 tries to hide some secret references from the original timeline for year 37 of Nebuchadnezzar II, thus those of us who keep up with the recent research can recover the original dates for at least the rule of Neb-II using this document. Year 37 originally occurred in 511 BCE.

  The significance of that is that this dates year 23 to 525 BCE which after you add 70 years of exile of the last deportees you get 455 BCE for the 1st of Cyrus, which few will argue is the implied fulfillment of the "70 weeks" which begin with the "word going forth to rebuild Jerusalem." So some of us use the VAT4956 to move beyond the false date of 587 BCE for year 18 of Neb-II. At this point though, because of the VAT4956, pretending 587 BCE is a viable date in ancient history for year 18 of Neb-II is just a matter of incompetence. In the meantime, the corrected dates found in the VAt4956 totally agree with the Bible's timeline for the NB Period! It's quite amazing!

  You need to update.

  LS
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  simon17

  I hate to disagree. Let sleeping dogs lie. 99% of everyone just blindly accepts the given "explanations" just like they do for anti-evolutionary information.
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  Midget-Sasquatch

  My cynical strategy: Let the deluded old men keep changing their ideas. Let them make these pivotal doctrinal changes (eg. the generation) frequently. Let them come out with articles that try to support the weakest links (eg. 607) and monitor the net for feedback and counter arguments. As the jw userbase grows disaffected, a faction within the hierarchy of the Org can prepare for a "Reformed Jehovah's Witnesses" non profit to be setup and in waiting, ready to quickly come into being.

  When most of the current 70,80,90 yr old JWs are dead and gone, and they've hopefully gotten something from their wills, then the faction that will represent the new reformed non profit can begin to make use of a new feature of the WT. Not the current "questions from readers" farce but a more harder hitting section that serves as a discussion on alternative views. The faction can use this section in a series of magazines to instigate debate, bring in fresh ideas, and tap into the actual opinions and beliefs of the rank and file...the ones that actually care about it. The more nonsensical teachings from the current JWs can serve as a pretext for needing to split.

  If there's momentum, they actually make the split. They'll lose alot of followers but they're going to shrink anyways. See how many followers go to this reformed movement. If it makes sense, the old WT can just dissolve, seeing the error of its ways, and gift all its assets to the reformed movement, that can choose to liquidate or make mass changes as it sees fit.
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  mP

  They cant and wont. Its not about honesty if they give up on 587 they will lose more than they gain. If the admit 587 is wrong they will at best lose thousands without gaining any respect or new blievers from the outside world.