There's hope for you yet Grace
Why?
by bushido8000 18 Replies latest jw experiences
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00DAD
First off, Welcome to the forum!
You've already gotten some good comments from some well respected members.
I especially appreciated Sizemik's comments about his atheism, although I think you'll find that to be a unique point of view among atheists.
It's funny what we do after we realize "The Truth About The Truth" (TTATT). Many people become extremists but of a different sort.
Some become "militant atheists", others evangelical Christians determined to convince you that Jesus really is God and you MUST worship him to be saved. I wish I knew who said it first so I could quote it exactly, but even though I don't I'll paraphrase it anyways, "The WT is good at creating atheists. We learn that all other religions are false, so when we learn that the JWs are false too we have nothing left!.
There is a lot of truth to that.
From what I've seen in the eight months or so I've been here on JWN, most of us fall somewhere in the middle ground. We don't give up on everything, we just don't know what to believe in anymore. This is a place (not JWN, but where YOU are right now) of personal discovery and growth. You've got to be willing to let it happen. Some people bounce around in search of truth and meaning. Look what Cofty wrote above as an example. Others are afraid to believe anything anymore or to trust anyone.
When I was an active uber-JW and elder I thought I had all the answers. Oddly enough that wasn't very satisfying. Now that I realize I not only don't have the answers I'm not even sure what all the right questions are I am so much more at peace. Sometimes it is enough to just sit still and quiet and be in awe of the infinite knowing that you may never know ...
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cofty
Some people bounce around in search of truth and meaning. Look what Cofty wrote above as an example.
I don't know what you mean 00DAD. I didn't "bounce around" at all. I spent 9 years as a happy and fully committed evangelical christian before taking the next logical step on my "spiritual journey".
It was/is natural to imagine that at least your core beleifs must be true - the existence of god, the bible as a reliable guide etc. It took me a long time to gradually admit to myself that everything I previously believed was an error. I didn't rush from Watchtower to atheism as a gut reaction as you describe. It was a carefully considered decision.
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mouthy
Thanks Cofty.... You pray for me That is all the hope I need or darling are you a >
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cofty
Your welcome Grace
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mouthy
Well are you a sheep Granny wants to know
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paulnotsaul
bushido8000, I'm were your at right now in my faith. Except it took me 40 yrs. to see the "truth" for the separtist, hateful, evil cult that it is. I agree with what 00DAD said in his post. There is alot of truth in those statements. I think the problem with most ex and current witnesses is that their faith is/was based on the Org.'s picturesque and illustrative certainty of your salvation. The Org. gave you a vision to put your faith in. This is a hard pill to swallow when you trade certainty for uncertainty. Having faith in the unknow is not always easy for some so they chose to stay neutral or run in the other direction. I understand this. God knows our hearts, right? Just cause you call yourself a christian does'nt mean your saved ! That's all. peaceAll paulnotsaul
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TOTH
Firstly, WELCOME!
Secondly, it's my opinion that many of us left the BORG with questions. Some of us are still seeking answers to them from IS there a god to WHERE can i find HIM. For me, I began to question everything including the existence of god and the veracity of the scriptures. Some of us found our answers and others not.
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Morbidzbaby
I can't say I ran straight from being a JW to being an Atheist. I started with my doubts in the Watchtower and their god. Then I researched the Bible itself. Then I started researching this theory of evolution thingy because I found out I didn't know as much about it as I thought I did (evolution DOESN'T teach that we came from monkeys?? Huh. Color me surprised!). A combination of thorough research in various subjects, combined with lack of personal one-on-one experience, led me to conclude that there is not enough evidence to support the idea that any god or creator exists. Am i open to being proven wrong by solid evidence that isn't based on personal experience of someone else? Absolutely! But, as of now, no such evidence exists...so I remain Atheist (well, Pagan Atheist).