Who Lost The End of Mark's Gospel?

by cofty 16 Replies latest watchtower bible

  • mP
    mP

    cofty

    like i said to understand why the son of god was invented one must also examine the history of judea at the time during the first century. the romans were sick of the jews rebelling. the romans were sick of the spirit of rebellion the jews git from their beliefs that god will deliver them from the pagan gentiles. at the center of each rebllion we will find religious leaders. these false messiahs were a real problem simple because they kept appearing and they kept on gathering armies to fight. normally the romans didnt intefer with religion they onkyndemanded that the emperor be worshipped as a god in addition to regular service. this was simply about respect. the jews refused this and they also rebelled. to end this problem the romans thought the answer was to give a twist to judaism, to say a messiah had come and taught that the emperor must be obeyed, taxes paid, slaves remain obedie t and so on. its quite interesting that the gospels always emphasize obedience instead of freedom. however if we see the hand of rome it all makes sense. for example the story of matthew is not only about jesus being born in the home of david its an example that the messiah himselfs father paid his taxes no matter what. anyway to continue the sotry, they also had this messiah teach to be peaceful, something the jews were not. part of the story makes fun of the jees and this is why so many apostles are rebels, eg zealots, iscariot = sicarri another griup of bandits and so on. the original apocalypse told by jesus is of course the destruction of jerusalem. mark etc go into details about how titus surrounds and eventually wins the fight. josephus himself changed sides during this rebellion and recorded the campaign . if you examine jospehus writings says in his writings that titus was the messiah. titus was also the son of god, with god being his father the new emperor vespasian. remember all caesars were also gods.anyway the path jesus takes in his ministry and where he visits who he encounters also match the path of titus and his campaign. arimathea as in joseph of arimathea is just a pun on josephus family name , ben matthais. you can also see jospehus'hand in the journey of paul to rome, they both were involved in a shipwreack in the same place etc. in fact this one trip has about twenty points of similarity that are two fraky to be coincidence. anyway the story of paul persecuting jews or rebels is a perfect match for jospehus he turned traitor and joined the romans.

    if you want to find out more read or search you tube for joseph atwells - caesars messiah.

    its also interesting the second pope in rome, clement was a flavian or relative of vespasia n. if weunderstand the goal of the original message we can see its goal was to use religion to tell the jews god had given power to rome, and that they should obey, pay taxes wtc. some time the church decided to enhance the gospels and make jesus a godman, and therefore constructed matthew and other extensions. the bible and its contents has always been controlled by rome. xianity has always been a tool of the rich. if we examine whp benefited most from xianity there is only one reason.

    it is also no coincidence that peter went to rome. that story was just part of the justification to give power to caesar.

  • cofty
    cofty

    mP - I am certain that Jesus was not invented out of whole cloth. It is far more likely there was a historical Jesus however much he is now shrouded in myth.

  • glenster
  • Disillusioned Lost-Lamb
    Disillusioned Lost-Lamb

    Blame the catholics that's always fun!

  • transhuman68
    transhuman68

    Reading another book about Mark; and now it does seem like it was supposed to end the way it originally did. It's all about disregarding the conventional beliefs of the time; and failure and betrayal by the ones closest to Jesus- the apostles. Probably at the time it was as controversial as the Book of Job- but a best-seller, so it was altered, and copied by the other Gospel writers. The theory is that it was written for the Christians in Rome, just after the persecution by Nero, possibly so they could empathize with the original apostles...

  • Phizzy
    Phizzy

    I always ,when a believing JW, found it distinctly unsettling that the ending of Mark was in doubt, I did not know about the beginning being in doubt too, and the "missing" verses and the Pericopia de Adultera in John etc

    I could not understand how God, if He had inspired the writings, had not taken care to get them properly transmitted down the centuries.

    I shoved such thoughts to the back of my mind, fool that I was, if I had investigated my doubts at the time, I would have been free of the WT and its lies so many years earlier than I was.

  • transhuman68
    transhuman68

    If the Watchtower Society really were the 'faithful & discreet slave' they would have known which ending was correct, instead of including the original ending- and the long and short conclusions in the NWT. Three different endings- they can't all be 'inspired of God', can they?

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