Something about the end of the current system of things they can't pony up to...

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  • okage
    okage

    1975 was approaching and for years the Society demanded the belief that God instructed these men of Bethel to declare 1975 as the date for the end. They talked about it in conventions. They supported it in many of their publications. During this campaign to get followers, money, and money followers, the Organization encouraged their people to sell their homes, quit their jobs, sell off all of their personal belongings to pick up the NWT and start door knocking for free.

    And many did this. But at the end of 1975, September I recall, they started pointing fingers at the Rank and File. They started pointing fingers at the writers of the publications. Though they "failed" to tell their followers that these articles needed to be approved by the Governing Body before release, and that prior to 1971(2), the President of the Organization was the only member of the heirarchy that could pass doctrine.

    The typical Witness was told to diregard the past or risk disfellowshipping. They were then told lies that this rain of 1975 propaganda the Society churned out for years never happened and the typical Witness fell in line and believed it. Trying to get a Witness to accept the fact the Society screwed over many of their own with a promise they couldn't keep has been impossible. They say it never happened and that the Governing Body would never do that. One reason being that it's against scripture to promise tomorrow. Another reason because it's a horrible thing to do to people who trust you.

    But now, there is that pesky article in the June 15th, 2012 Study Edition of the Watchtower that talks about dropping the useless idea of lucrative employment and higher education to pick up pioneering for the Society for free. I know on here it's been referenced in their casual, unending bashing of higher education, but I don't know how often it's been viewed in this manner:

    Exactly what they did in 1975, they are doing now. "Drop a future in this unclean world because the end of this system is imminent." Higher education and secular employment "have no lasting future" because the end is that close. Many of the Witnesses who read this June Study garbage will do what many did in 1975 (in some cases, what their parents and/or grandparents did in 1975) and in a decade, they'll deny that the Society ever made this asinine claim this year, just like they've been doing for the last 30+ years.

    But we are in April of 2012. The June Study is still accessible on the site www.jw.org and this is a striking point for the debate. The Society is making the claim NOW. The documentation and the context are being provided by the Watchtower Society NOW. I took to Yahoo Answers with this premise, challenging any Jehovah's Witness to argue the validity.

    The listing is here: http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index;_ylt=AnqCyAmoZsgRtIoLdCEcx0_sy6IX;_ylv=3?qid=20120407130232AAkVzlb (you don't have to read it. But I'd appreciate any edit points to build at it's foundation.) You'll notice I've had no takers.

    They've given us the hatchet to bury in their skulls. An "apostate" arguing point that cannot be brushed off as a lie. The Watchtower has the "lie" available to the world to critique. This point cannot be brushed off as a distorted document by the "filth" of the world. The Watchtower's server makes it nearly impossible to access and alter. This is one of those few, wonderful opportunities for Satan's Army to rip the world of perception away from the mindless numbskullery produced in a Kingdom Hall.

    A starting point. An ending point.

    War in a bottle.

    What do you think?

  • thecrushed
    thecrushed

    I remember reading this and becoming inflamed with anger over it. I'm friends with an elderly couple at the hall that went through that 1975 dibacle. They sold there house and possessions and went out to regular pioneer till the end came. They nearly went broke. They of course thought it was just there fault. This BS has ruined and rotted my whole family and destroyed my life as well. I'm not even so sure my bipolar would have shown its ugly head if I hadn't been Born in to this Cult. When I was a teen my parents never encouraged education. I didn't even bother to take my SAT because of it.

  • TOTH
    TOTH

    Let them go to hell in their own way. I HATE what they did to my folks. Scaring them about 75 and us little kids would DIE if they were not IN the org. Water under the bridge for us I guess. All we can do is point people at the information and let them decide. Lead the horse to water but you can't make it drink.

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  • 00DAD
    00DAD

    TOTH: Lead the horse to water but you can't make it drink.

    But you CAN lead a JW to Kool-aid and they'll suck it right down with a smile!

    Kool-aid Man

  • Emma
    Emma

    It's frustrating that "they" say this was never taught. What outright lies. A young family in our congregation in PA gave up everything. The couple had three young children, the dad had a good job for Piper Airline, they had a nice home. The father quit his job, they sold the house (irionically to the PO!) and moved to a remote area of the state to preach the end. After a couple of years the money had run out. They were living in a (practically) abandoned house, scraping for money for food and heat. I've lost track of them but wondered what became of them. Such a nice family.

  • 00DAD
    00DAD

    WTBTS on Higher Education and the End of This Corrupt System of Things

    WT NOW, 2012:

    If you are approaching the end of the schooling required of you, you may find yourself in good health and with few responsibilities. Have you seriously considered entering the regular pioneer ranks? No doubt, school counselors sincerely believe that it is in your best interests to pursue higher education and to plan for a secular career. Yet, their confidence lies in a social and financial system that has no lasting future. On the other hand, by pursuing a theocratic career, you will be pursuing truly worthwhile and lasting goals. And you will be following Jesus’ perfect example. Such a wise decision will make you happy. It will protect you. And it will show that you are determined to live up to your dedication to Jehovah.—Matt. 6:19- 21; 1 Tim. 6:9-12. - w2012 6/15, p. 23, paragraph 15 - [Emphasis added]

    WT THEN, 1969:

    If you are a young person, you also need to face the fact that you will never grow old in this present system of things. Why not? Because all the evidence in fulfillment of Bible prophecy indicates that this corrupt system is due to end in a few years. Of the generation that observed the beginning of the "last days" in 1914, Jesus foretold: "This generation will by no means pass away until all these things occur." -- Matt. 24:34

    Therefore, as a young person, you will never fulfill any career that this system offers. If you are in high school and thinking about a college education, it means at least four, perhaps even six or eight more years to graduate into a specialized career. But where will this system of things be by that time? it will be well on the way toward it's finish, if not actually gone! - g69 5/22, p. 15 - [Emphasis added]

    WT THEN, 1969:

    Many schools now have student counselors who encourage one to pursue higher education after high school, to pursue a career with a future in this system of things. Do not be influenced by them. Do not let them "brainwash" you with the Devil's propaganda to get ahead, to make something of yourself in this world. This world has very little time left! Any "future" this world offers is no future! Wisely, then, let God's Word influence you in selecting a course that will result in your protection and blessing. Make pioneer service, the full-time ministry, with the possibility of Bethel or missionary service your goal. This is a life that offers an everlasting future!" - w1969 3/15, p. 171 - [Emphasis added]

    WT THEN, 1968:

    What will the 1970's Bring? - g1968 10/8, p. 13- 14

    The fact that fifty-four years of the period called the "last days" have already gone by is highly significant. It means that only a few years, at most, remain before the corrupt system of things dominating the earth is destroyed by God. How can we be so certain of this? - [Emphasis added]

    One ways is by noting what Jesus said when he gave his great prophecy about the "last days." After he listed the many events that would mark this period, he also stated, "Truly I say to you that this generation will by no means pass away until all these things occur." -- Matt. 24:34.

    Jesus was obviously speaking about those who were old enough to witness with understanding what took place when "the last days" began. Jesus was saying that some of those persons who were alive at the appearance of the 'sign of the last days' would still be alive when God brought this system to its end.

    Even if we presume that youngsters 15 years of age would be perceptive enough to realize the import of what happened in 1914, it would still make the youngest of "this generation" nearly 70 years old today. So the great majority of the generation to which Jesus was referring has already passed away in death. The remaining ones are approaching old age. And remember, Jesus said that the end of this wicked world would come before that generation passed away in death. This, of itself, tells us that the years left before the foretold end comes cannot be many. - [Emphasis added]

    You don't need a higher education to know that "only a few years", "very little time" and "cannot be many" is less than 43 or 44, a lot less! They are robbing millions of people of some of the most productive years of their lives by holding out false hopes and promises based on lies. It really should be criminal.

  • Yan Bibiyan
    Yan Bibiyan

    I'd love to hire JWs, have them work for me and keep telling them that I will pay them "soon", that payday is "just around the corner", that money in their bank account is "imminent" and see how long they will last...

    Oh, wait! The WT has already been doing this for ~100 years....

  • ldrnomo
    ldrnomo

    JW's our their friends may not answer the question but at least some may read it and it might make then THINK

  • thetrueone
    thetrueone

    Religion + corruption = money

    This equation has existed within the WTS. publishing house from its very foundational beginning.

    Presented of course toward the public as wholesome virtuous intent, which contains both its pretentiousness and disingenuous.

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