Are the jw's rewriting the bible?

by hoser 17 Replies latest jw friends

  • hoser
    hoser

    I just caught this in the July 2012 study watchtower:

    "8 Note how “the works of the flesh”

    breed disunity. (Read Galatians 5:19-

    21.) Fornication separates the one practicing

    it from Jehovah and the congregation,

    and adultery can cruelly separate

    children from parents and innocent

    partners from marriage mates. Uncleaness

    affects a person’s unity with God

    and with those who love him. One who

    has attempted to glue two things together

    knows that both surfaces must

    be clean before a proper bond can be

    forged. Engaging in brazen conduct

    demonstrates total disregard for God’s righteous

    laws."

    So they start the paragraph by having the congregation read the works of the flesh in Galatians 5:19-21 and the third one listed is loose conduct in the NWT.

    but in the paragraph they call it BRAZEN conduct!

    I know they came up with this term in the last elders book and when they did a crackdown on porn a few years ago. But in this paragraph it is like they are replacing loose conduct with Brazen conduct in the bible.

    Questions?

    Why?

    Are they on the verge of a revamped NWT for the new millenium? with all the loose conduct taken out of it and replaced with this new word?

    hoser

  • Phizzy
    Phizzy

    Their former explanations of what "loose conduct" was, if a bit vague, also left them without the broad extent of human conduct that could be interpreted as "brazen conduct".

    They have defined the latter to a degree in the Elders book, but never clearly, if at all, in the WT rag.

    This gives them ultimate control i.e their biggest enemy is the Internet, so they only have to stress that the JW's should only visit JW.org and no other site, and someone discovered to be ignoring this could be accused of "Brazen" conduct, willfully ignoring the counsel from the FDS and Elders.

    There are hundreds of situations this word can cover. Hence it is being slyly introduced for the dubs to get used to, so that when it is used by the Elders as they leak the reason for someone getting the boot "Oh it was a clear case of brazen conduct" the dubs will think their is some scriptural backing for it.

    They have a catchall reason with this one to control thought and conduct, and if that control is ignored, to DF, for anything they deem not "theocratic", their word for kosher.

  • N.drew
    N.drew

    It probably doesn't change much. What is "loose conduct" anyway? Brazen is much more specific.

  • Phizzy
    Phizzy

    That is exactly what "Brazen conduct" is not, it is not specific, and it won't ever be defined narrowly by the W.T, it is too useful as non-specific.

  • N.drew
    N.drew

    Brazen is in the dictionary. Loose conduct is not. lol

  • Morbidzbaby
    Morbidzbaby

    I think the difference is that loose conduct involves simply an act or acts... Brazen conduct involves judging the offender's attitude and motives...which makes it a broader spectrum of things that could be a cause for disciplinary action. It basically makes it so that any action that is contrary to what is prescribed by the Watchtower Society is considered "brazen"... You're going against what you're told, which shows a willfull disobedience and disregard for "Jehovah's laws". Loose conduct usually centered around a select few things.

  • N.drew
    N.drew

    Morbidzbaby. That makes sense. Thanks.

    It would be difficult to claim someone was practicing loose conduct if she searched the internet. But because she had been told not to search the internet she would be guilty of brazen conduct if she did.

  • Think About It
    Think About It

    I agree with M-baby too. When I was an elder, I always linked loose conduct with "acts" that a person did. I know there was some talk when this change in translation came about that it could be translated "brazen". This change does give the WTS more control over JW's, and the ability to take action again anyone with whom the elders deem having a questioning or disobedient attitude towards ANY WTS counsel or instructions.

    My problem is.....this cult calls itself The Truth, and they always claim Armaggedon is imminent. If this cult is God's channel on earth, why didn't the holy spirit direct these frauds to translate it right the first time? Don't you think a group that is God's true organization could at least go a reasonable time before the end being able to say they have the absolute truth without changing things so damn much? Look at this little change, then the major over-lapping generation change, the COBE change, the magazines containing "the truth" reduced in size, the getting out of Brooklyn change and all the other changes.

    Amazing more people can't see this is at least a religious Cult and at best a religious Movement.

    Think About It

  • LongHairGal
    LongHairGal

    N.Drew:

    I always felt the term "loose conduct" was inappropriate because it gives the impression that somebody was involved with immorality or horsing around in some fashion, EVEN though I heard this term applied to people who had a falling out with elders over something and they were slapped with this term for spite. I don't like this because it hides that somebody is out because something is wrong with the religion !!!

    In my opinion, this new term of "brazen" conduct just widens this broad-brush statement to mean just about anything somebody want it to.

  • BluesBrother
    BluesBrother

    Brazen is in the dictionary. Loose conduct is not

    It may be in the dictionary, but it is not in Galations chapter 5......

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