Jehovah Witnesses Fragment Groups: "Why Are There So Many?"

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  • Bubblegum Apotheosis
    Bubblegum Apotheosis

    Last night I went on a journey, it started with a "Wiki" page about "Splinter JW Groups", from website to website, I learned about men and women, who were left out of the "Proclaimers" book. A Field Service flash back hit me:

    The territory we worked, was "seldom worked territory", and the adventure came freshly to mind, the first house we encountered a "Russellite", strange, but (I thought they were all dead?) not too far out there?

    Two hours later, a former believer in his late eighties spoke of the "True Slave, whose direction we were not obeying", who was he refering to, Rutherford. His opinion was brother R. was put into a rest-home, while Knorr took the reigns of the "Earthly Charriot" A qoute from Tony Willis "A People For His Name", "The Editorial Committee was dissolved in 1931, after which Rutherford wrote every leading article in The Watch Tower until his death."

    One of the friends in our F-350 van, encountered one of the "Evil Slave" members, part of the group who shared sympathy with Ray Frantz, and left the Organization. How come I never asked why Ray Frantz left the Organization, he once loved and slaved for? Asking the "Who, What, Where, When, Why and How is going to cause more problems with Witnesses with internet access.

    The Web allows us to research material our parents would have to go to great lenghts to gain access to. I never heard of the "Romanian Group" who broke away in 1990s, because of the "Superior Authorites". The "Dawn Group" (Assemblies in Motel 6 Conference Rooms to this day), nope! The Bible Study Students in England and Europe, (I heard of them) we are told they faded away, perhaps, but the damage is still out there.

    The information available allow us to read what really took place, or at least form a opinion of our own. The wrestling of power, the "hard hand tactics" Rutherford's envoy Johnson, who took control of England's Bible students corperation, had fun with their money and power. The more I dig, the more my guts are rolling around, but it's liberating to find out the other side of issues, the "self appointed men" have tried to burry from our sights. Instead of talking at us, why don't the Faithful Slave from New York, meet with the Faithful Slaves from Europe, Asia, Austrialia and South America to establish dialogue? It's arrogant to think New York is more annointed than brethren who have been imprisoned for decades.

    Why would Jesus Christ who said "everyone who followed him, would suffer tribulation" allow New York Annointed to be untested, unrefined from Satan's attacks?

  • wha happened?
    wha happened?

    I was quite surprised by the amount of Bible student groups that are alive and well. They even have DA's

  • still thinking
    still thinking

    Because they don't learn from their mistakes...

  • Fernando
    Fernando

    At an assembly an illustration was given of a husband arriving home and mistaking his wife's shiny new washing machine for a cement mixer. Since it was not built for this purpose it was destroyed before the first mix was done.

    This was to illustrate that humans were not built to be ruled by other humans.

    Go figure!

  • Aussie Oz
    Aussie Oz

    Jehovah Witnesses Fragment Groups: "Why Are There So Many?"

    Because they are no different from any other religion. They are not special.

    Oz

  • Bubblegum Apotheosis
    Bubblegum Apotheosis

    The Bible Czar's in New York tell their subjects this, but their words and actions scream the other. "We must support Christ brothers on earth!" conveniently we are not told to seek out the growing Bride class (The fastest growing segment of the Society percentage wise!) and how to aid them.

    The writing team are experts at slanting the articles (To the 50 percent who read them) which allow readers to draw the wrong but correct conclusion. This is a conumdrum, draw the wrong conclusion (Matthew 25: applies to the most vocal brothers of Christ, those whom you can see, hear, touch or listen to their opinions via W.T.S) from the writers style, draw their correct ones (The GB are the annoited ones Christ spoke of, obey them as your ruler).

    Years later, we can lambaste the readers who drew wrong conclusions (The marginal members thought 1975, we did not write it!) on the "right" ones we wanted them too. If this is ackward to read, it sounded better in my head, than on paper! Help me out with this!

  • Bubblegum Apotheosis
    Bubblegum Apotheosis

    Barbara Anderson captures one of the biggest clues to this puzzle the fragmentation, splinter groups.

    "In many cases the wrongs occured prior to the time when the "Watchtower" drew attention to what the Scriptures say on such misconduct"

    Question Box on p. 8:
    What is meant by "some years ago" on page 170, paragraph two, in the "Organization" book?This indicates more than a year or two. It may be noted that it did not say "manyyears ago." So it is not an exact number of years, but more like two or three years. Itwas not intended to have a brother go back into the distant past to bring up wrongs of which he repented years ago and that have evidently been forgiven by Jehovah and are not being practiced now. In many cases the wrongs occurred prior to the timewhen the "Watchtower" drew attention to what the Scriptures say on such misconduct"

  • Phizzy
    Phizzy

    The WT writers like to foster the fiction that the start of the religion with Russell was not a break from another religion, which it was of course, so Russell was an Apostate and so were his early followers.

    It also likes to foster the idea that all groups that "left" were the "Evil Slave", the truth is that Rutherford split from the main body of Bible Students who then did fragment somewhat due to his disrupting influence, and some seeing a power vacuum they could fill, hived off into their own movements.

    Many of the original movements still exist, though they are in fast decline.

    As someone says above, when you look at the true WT history, they are no different than other religions.

  • Bubblegum Apotheosis
    Bubblegum Apotheosis

    I asked the question of few times, "was brother Russell looking for Christ's brothers on earth, while alive?" No satisfactory answers have been given to me, to overcome this hurdle. If he was the 15th apostle, why is much of his work disgarded?

  • jwfacts
    jwfacts

    Funny that. The Watchtower website has an article "Are Jehovah's Witnesses a Protestant Religion?" from the The Watchtower November 1, 2009. It makes the following comment:

    "Third, unlike the Protestant movement, which has splintered into hundreds of denominations, Jehovah’s Witnesses have maintained a united global brotherhood."

    Yet another Watchtower lie.

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