How was your fall or rise spiritually? Are you in a place you are proud of now?

by Butterflyleia85 11 Replies latest jw friends

  • Butterflyleia85
    Butterflyleia85

    I would like to take a look among you friends and relate or maybe learn something.

    We were told as Jehovah's Witnesses to be strong stand firm in faith. I must be crazily organized with records because I recorded how I was and have calendar with dates to keep me focused. My idea's I noticed were very sheltered, kinda wrapped up in my own world... yes I allowed myself freedom to expand educationally, work related (financially), wholesome entertainment, but of course not morally, nor opened mindedly to other's religion, morals, beliefs, goals unless it was spiritually JW way.

    I didn't understand what spiritually was, except on what the Jehovah's Witness taught me. And I allowed them to guide that for me because I had so much else I felt I needed to worry about at the time. What I didn't realize it was turning me into a close minded judgmental person... I had a kind heart yes, tried so hard to be humble, meek, and hard working... but the harm was I didn't let people in totally, I was afraid, and I had a hard time communicating myself freely.

    I pulled out one of my records of my happiest times as a JW… because I was so spiritual and then and the end why it didn’t work with me.

    CALENDER of 2004

    January - February

    Went out in service twice that month; went to high school half day then to work for co-op, made all my Honor class meetings, did my bible reading because it was a new start in Genesis, made all the meetings, studied good for school (my senior year) and for meetings ('church' or 'JW gatherings'). Socially, I was clicking with my new JW friends (a group half an hour away), we went on a couple ski trips those months and I was becoming best friends with a friend from the hall (I moved to the West Hall from the South Hall, I will call my friend ‘V’, ‘V’ was originally from the hall that was half an hour away so she introduced me to the group) who studied with me ( had two friends with me that already moved to this hall before I did, we hang out a bet too, they just weren't into skiing, etc. just good to go out to movies with, I will call them ‘LL’). I wasn't a good study student cause I never was prepared to well for her. lol But she was very encouraging, sweet, and outgoing, I needed that. (That is when I started becoming "spiritually strong" again (last time I was spiritually strong was when my grandpa was alive 1999, went through kinda through a depression and keep to myself).

    Scriptures and notes I had marked in the corner: 1 Tim 6:9 - "Those who are determined to be rich fall into temptation which plunge into destruction and ruin", "How are we different from Christendom? We worship the only true God.", Jer 10:23 - "It does not belong to man to direct his step." "We need to take advantage to teach others.

    March

    School was getting intense but I still managed to get 7 hours of field service in! I had goals set for myself on making return visits, starting studies, and finish my Baptism book for the summer baptism. I also had a few projects it looks like for school and I had to finish my scholarship application! I was also working on a project at work and trying to keep all their names strait! (lol I have names of people in here with arrows pointing to the color of their hair! lol to funny!)

    Apirl

    Had the overseer visit this month! Ooow and awesome looks like I was working out too! I have dates of when I went to Excel (a fitness gym). I went to the movies a lot and hung out with my old friends, LL. Same thing though school & work daily, study with V once a week, workout three times a week, Field Service twice a month, and homework & study lesson all the other time!

    May 27th

    Last Day of School!

    Notes I had marked in the corner: “I believe no one should have a best friend it’s much too clingy and selfish but everybody should have close friends.” (Wow why did I write this??? Hmmm well my opinion changed completely on that one... Cause I have to admit my best friend is my hubby! J)

    June

    Graduation Day was the 1 st . I had a week of Senior Vacation and brought my friend LL (she has a sister and but she’s my sister’s age, I didn’t bring her. Lol) Had Graduation Party and worked about 74 hours at work that month, and went three times out in field service!

    July

    Big Convention!! Wahoo! I got Baptized! Work, worked out, Out in service (six times this month), and started my first study with my nonJW cousin. I had an apt. for tech school (college). I still lived at home and it looks like I did the cleaning and the cooking. I know I mowed too. (man no wonder I went crazy… my sister and mom are kinda well to put it kindly they don’t care about picking up after themselves)

    Notes I had marked in the corner: Acts 20:26-27 “I would feel blood guilty if I did not tell you the things of God”, Isa. 48:17 “God is Teaching you… In the way you should walk.”

    August

    Oh man… I had a crush on this guy I will call him M in our hall, he got married that month August 7 th to a girl I became good friends with for a while. (They are divorced now)

    I never understood how people meet other people. Well for one I was shy so I guess that explains it. Oh and that explains my thinking then too!! I remember repeating in my head when I worked out, some day a guy will talk to me!! And no not like at school when a goofy guy in my art class asked if I was gay because he never seen me with a boyfriend before! Lol This time a Jehovah’s Witness guy at the convention will see how spiritual I am and either ask about me or approach me! Well I hope he will be taller than me and I hope that I am skinnier then him. (Yeah I had problems with image at the time… I blame my grandma… I got out of that thinking before I met my husband after realizing how image doesn’t matter (I went through a lot of handsome jerks and jw ones too), we all get old and gray anyways and man I wanted to live with someone I can be happy with for the rest of my life!)

    I start College, work a new job (they transferred me to City building), and looks like I went out in service 9 times! I also preached and left literature with all my “worldly work and old school friends” it looks like! Ha Poor friends.

    Scripture I had marked in the corner: Prov. 3:5, 7 “trust in the Lord with all your heart and don’t lean on your own understanding” “do not be wise in your own eyes; fear the Lord and shun evil.”

    September - October

    I gave my first Talk! Yay! I got to work out in service with my crush’s wife. Lol Looks like I’m still studying with V, going college, exercising, hanging out with JW friends, and making it to meetings & field service (4 times both months). I had a side job to with photograph it looks like cause I did my first wedding photography, while working for city, and school and who can forget meetings, field service, etc. Busy Busy…

    Notes I had marked in the corner: Plan something November 25-28 no work or school.

    November

    OMG and guess what I did on my time off… Out in service. Haha I gave another talk that month and went out in service 10 times! Wow what a waste. Anyways looks like I started to get close to my father’s side of the family!! Man after all the years of not hearing from them (I was 5 years old to 19 years old no word of that side) or visiting with them I reached out and put an effort! And with my high stand as a Jehovah’s Witness… they of coarse loved that, one of my Uncles is an elder all his kids are really spiritual and well they started to except or involve my father in their lives too. My father kinda just made is own life and had a new family of his own (half sister and brother), they all didn’t go to meetings etc. but if he wanted me in his life I think he was putting more of an effort, for both my sister and I and his family. (He had a lot of secrets that came out later)

    I have more friends!! I never had before… people from the other hall came for a party I throw! Of course it was a wholesome party duh music, food, socializing, jokes, and dancing that was kinda like line dancing. Lol

    December

    I decided I want to Al. Pioneer. Haha man I should have done that a long time ago and had the title with all that dedication of field service it looks like. (but that wasn’t my thinking then… along with why I waited to become baptized, I didn’t want to commit to something unless I was sure I could up hold the standard!) Looks like I did another Wedding Photography then went to a 1 day convention the next day. Hmmm and it looks like my sister starts her worldly fun… haha See she is in show choir at this time and I see where I went to one of her concerts. She had a lot of friends in school and had boyfriend etc. (haha still me never dated a boy in my life!!) She went out with her “worldly friends” house and hung out, went to movies, etc, (mom is very liberal about stuff like this) she even got nominated prom queen!! But that’s not til later.

    To conclude with this year, if you asked me if I was happy I would say yes my happiest I ever been but I still feel like something was missing. I want to have a relationship, a boyfriend for one… I will become hopefully successful in my career and not poor like I been all my life but really I wish I could be a stay at home mom like LL’s parents life, but that never happens so I just hope in the future I can find a good paying and enjoyable career. Watching my friends, us ladies, pathetic life made me realize I wanted out (that opportunity was soon in the future and I knew it too, I’m a big dreamer you should see my journals).

    (P.S. - my reasoning of reaching back in the past is making sure my decisions in my life are logical and not influenced by others. I have to have sound reasoning for the reasons I choose the path I choose... kinda like a checkup date… making sure my records are straight in my head and I haven’t gone crazy... lol)

  • Butterflyleia85
    Butterflyleia85

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nRC8ExrIDHE&feature=relmfu

    We are all brain washed! ha

    I work on my inter beauty daily... I am working on my authentic me!

  • wha happened?
    wha happened?

    I'm not where I want to be, but I know where I don't want to be, and that is a member of a cult

  • mind blown
    mind blown

    Has always been a on going process....and happy not to be enslaved by liers who can't even live up to the expectations they put on others

    LUKE 11:46

    Yes," said Jesus, "what sorrow also awaits you experts in religious law! For you crush people with unbearable religious demands, and you never lift a finger to ease the burden.

  • Fernando
    Fernando

    Religion says: "CONTROL them. Make them do the RIGHT thing."

    Scripture says: "Set them free and give them a new heart/spirit".

    I now see clearly how as a Watchtower follower I was RBNS (Religious But Not Spiritual).

    Now as a simple Jesus follower I am SBNR (Spiritual But Not Religious).

    I am definitely proud of this new place and identity.

  • Fernando
    Fernando

    Hey mind blown!

    Excellent scripture from the New Living Translation (NLT).

    Here it is in The Message Bible: "He said, 'Yes, and I can be even more explicit. You're hopeless, you religion scholars! You load people down with rules and regulations, nearly breaking their backs, but never lift even a finger to help. '" (Luke 11:46)

    As Ray Franz pointed out in ISOCF "legalism" leads to a "morass of inconsistencies".

    The excellent article (about legalism) in g79 6/8 pp. 27-28 reads like a summary of ISOCF and was probably written by Ray.

    A great way to get your favourite Watchtower follower to unknowingly read Ray Franz is to ask him to explain "legalism" and its exact opposite from the heart. "Legalism" is mentioned only once in the entire Watchtower library (CD Rom).

    http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Luke%2011:46%20&version=NLT;MSG;NIV;GNT;AMP

  • Butterflyleia85
    Butterflyleia85

    wha happened, yeah i know what you mean.

    mind blown and fernando you both said some good points i defiantly love! thank you

  • Shawn10538
    Shawn10538

    wow, that was one of the most interesting posts I've read in a while. I come across notes of mine from way back then every now and then. I wasn't a great note taker, but I could see the quantity of my notes decreasing over time. At some point i could barely get the title of the talk down. My schedule was crazy like yours back then too. all work, service, meetings, talks, work, service, meetings, talks over and over. Then I went to Bethel and it was the same thing only on crack. Now a days I feel great if I do one thing on my daily list which doesn't even exist.

  • Butterflyleia85
    Butterflyleia85

    shawn10538 wow never been to bethel that was a inspirational dream i had in the past til a few "brothers" and "sisters" from my hall told me how it really was over there, one sister's daughter was even in the young people's ask video!!! for me though, i wanted to draw in there art department!! instead i talked to the overseer about joining the building commity, they said i needed to fill out an application. things started going down hill spiritually before up hill. and so most of my goals changed. i let my jealousy get the best of me and my desires began to show it's true color. :( not proud of it but now i can see why i went from one extreme to the other.

    haha and yeah i take really good notes too, i had to for school and meetings etc.

  • WTWizard
    WTWizard

    All that time wasted on field circus. Yet, does it do anything to teach you how the human soul actually works? Or the universe?

    I thought that I was doing things spiritually when I was in the cancer (especially when I was first going in). However, this is because they kept using "Willingness to abide by the LIE-ble and those interpreting it to the full" and "Doing more for the religion" as definitions on spirituality. Then I realized (after leaving the cancer) that these are fake definitions of spirituality. First, obeying the Filthful and Disgraceful Slavebugger ensured that I was worshiping them, and they were holding people down spiritually. More recently, I realized that the whole LIE-ble is designed to hold mankind down spiritually. To this date, I am still refining what the real meaning of spirituality is--understanding how the soul works is the best I can come up with.

    And now, without even realizing it, I see that I have always been seeking real spirituality. Not through churches. Not through Christi-SCAM-ity. Not through the LIE-ble. But through the occult, magic (even when I was around 10, I ordered a catalog of magic through a Boys Life magazine), and self hypnosis. Even though I never succeeded in it (thanks to those filthy angels, who are actually trying to hold mankind back spiritually), I still have interest in the occult. And while I was in college, I had more interest in psychic readings, horoscopes, witchcraft, and numerology than in church--and those filthy angels sent me "The Guide", based on "Beyonder" (which was nothing more than a corrupted version of the LIE-ble interpretation of the 10 commandments).

    These days, I have access to the Internet (until ACTA or CISPA undo my access to it, that is). And on that Internet, I can access various Devil worship sites. From those, I find out that the LIE-ble is full of rubbish, stolen and corrupted from ancient religion, along with plenty of proof (including research on YouTube). I also realize now that I can seek spirituality much better there than in any Christian denominated religion--and that a 5-minute session with a Ouija board or burning candles to invoke demons is worth more than a lifetime of pious-sneering, missionary work, Beth Hell, monastery life, and going to 7 church sessions per day.

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