Masonry????

by apostate man 15 Replies latest jw friends

  • MadApostate
    MadApostate

    Larc says:

    In Russels' case, he borrowed ideas from several places. It would be fairer to say that he was most influenced by the Millerites, who became the Seventh Day Advenists.
    WRONG!!!

    "It would be fairer to say that he (Russell) was most influenced by the" SECOND ADVENTISTS, who evolved out of the Millerite "movement", as did other groups such as the SDA.

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    This should take care of Cyngus's doubts that "the Pyramid" was erected by the WBTS, although this did occur while JFR and the other Directors were in prison. It's doubtful that "anything" would have been done without JFR's approval, but I know of no actual proof of such.

    AT THE GRAVE


    On Monday, a party of about 150 was conducted by Brother Bohnet to the grave of Brother Russell. Upon a hillside, sloping towards the south, we joined hands around the grave and sang: 'Blest be the tie that binds our hearts in Christian love; the fellowship of kindred minds is like to that above.'

    Our last lingering look upon the scene recalled the peaceful manner of our Pastor's 'passing beyond the vail.' Brother Rutherford's words came to mind: 'I am glad this prison experience was reserved for us, rather than for our dear Brother Russell.'

    We visited the marble works and there watched the workmen slowly but surely chisel out the monument to be erected as a memorial to the Society. The Watchtower Society burial lots in Rosemont United Cemeteries, five miles due north of Pittsburgh City, contain ample grave space for all the members of the Bethel family, and the pilgrims and their wives — in all more than 275 adult graves. In the exact center of the Bethel lot will be erected diagonally the Pyramid Shape Monument as designed by Brother Bohnet, and accepted by Brother Russell as the most fitting emblem for an enduring monument on the Society's burial space. The size of this structure is nine feet across the base, and its apex stone is exactly seven feet above the ground surface level.

    It rests upon a concrete foundation five feet deep and heavily reinforced with barbed wire, the work of Brother Bohnet, who would not entrust this important task to anyone else, so we are assured that the job was well done. The brother gave a full description of the securing of the rock material at the time he piloted the conventionists to the cemetery and urged us to help ourselves to souvenir chips in the shop of the granite worker nearby ...

    Each slope of the pyramid will face one of the large lots, and on each of these slopes is cut in four-inch embossment a Teacher's Bible, on the pages of which will appear the names of the ones buried there. The burial space for Brother Rutherford was indicated and his name, like that of Brother Russell, will be at the top of opposite Bible pages. A Bible space is being set apart for the Pilgrims — all in one lot of forty eight grave space[s], so all their names will appear on the same Bible.

    Above the Bibles are spaces for inscriptions in full, W.T.B & T.S., I.B.S.A., 'Dead with Christ', 'Risen with Christ', etc. And above these the Cross and Crown and Wreath, and the whole capped with the apex stone, highly polished — its shape of course being pyramidal.

    Within the structure, incased [sic] in a block of granite, will be a sealed metal box in which is a complete set of Karatol Scripture Studies, the Memorial Tower, and one of every tract, photographs of Pastor Russell, a copy of the Society's charter, and many other things to interest the people who at some future date may open the pyramid and find them.

    It is expected the monument will be in place before the next Decoration Day. Any truth people desiring a chip of the stone may send postage enough to carry a piece about the size of an egg, with enough additional to pay the Society for the trouble of having it wrapped for the mail."

    Souvenir Report of the Bible Students Convention, Pittsburgh, PA. 1/2-5/1919, p7.

  • larc
    larc

    It seems to be we got off topic here. That is, the connection between the JWs and the Masons. Frankly, I don't see any. The Masons are a boys club for adults who emphasize "making good men better". They use the pyramid as a symbol of their origins as stone masons. They don't use it for prophecy as did Russell.

  • thinker
    thinker

    apostate man,
    I've done alot of reasearch on this. At first I found favorable comments from Russell concerning the masons. He gave sermons at mason halls and called them "brothers". Later additions of Zion's Watchtower warn against joining organizations like the masons.
    in my opinion he was not a mason, but was familiar with many of their rites because of his father being one.
    As for the pyramid, the watchtower will use whatever is in fashion at a time in history to get people's attention. Recently a Awake was left at my door. It had articles about a sacred stonehedge-like site in Ireland and the magical properties of amber. These new-age ideas are popular now, so they use them to get their own message across.

    thinker

  • MadApostate
    MadApostate
    in my opinion he was not a mason, but was familiar with many of their rites because of his father being one.

    Please provide PROOF that Joseph Russell was ever a Mason.

  • sf
    sf

    Just bringin' it to the table:

    < http://home.talkcity.com/InspirationAv/jforjesus/jahovahswitness.html

    a portion:

    ..."In examining the families that are involved with the Illuminati who use the Watchtower Society as a cover, we find a continuation of the same pattern as I noticed before: there is a large contingent of Scottish and a large Jewish bloodlines. For instance, one J.W. Illuminati family was the Udell family (Scottish name) who married Picketson Milliken (English maiden name with Jewish first husband)."

    (Shouldn't be too hard to get a search going on these names.)

    more as you read on:

    ..."This type of combination typifies so many of the elite who I have researched. In the Be Wise As Serpents book, chapter 1.11 discusses how the Satanism within the Illuminati and the Watchtower Society could be tracked by an understanding of Enochian magic. Readers may want to refer back to that chapter after reading this paragraph. The Illuminati operating within the Watchtower Society use the Enochian Language which has its own language and its own Enochian alphabet (letters in boxes).
    According to eyewitnesses who have left the J.W. part of the Illuminati, the Enochian alphabet is known and used as the cult language by those Illuminati operating in the high levels of the Watchtower Society. In other words, their ceremonies are done in this ritual Enochian language. Sir William Sinclair in the 16th century was one of those who introduced Enochian Magic to Scotland. The Scottish connection in the Watchtower Society is overpowering. Both the Russell and the Rutherford families came from Scotland as well as MacMillan and many other key eariy Watchtower leaders.

    . From this it appears that the Scottish type of Illuminatism that created the early Watchtower Society has always practiced Enochian magic. Remember from the Be Wise As Serpents book that knowing the Watchtowers is the key to Enochian magic. The same type of winged-sun-disk that C.T. Russell used was also used on the ......... Magic. Two phrases that were popular among satanists who practiced Enochian Magic in Rumli's day were ?Millennial Dawn and ?Golden Age.? The following are some of the Illuminati operating within the Watchtower Society today (names may be spelled incorrectly in some cases):

    Chris family - Domelie family-Irish bloodline

    Karrls - JW Overseer in Miami, FL Prince George McKee-Monroeville, AL Melers, or Myer-Jewish Satanic bloodline.

    Sharon Russell - left the Illuminati, still a JW, worked with police showing ritual sites.

    Princess Proud Swift - lived in Delaware, with the travel industry Jim Tifton-important WT official and elder in So. Calif. A secret Satanic serial murderer.

    Walt family - Woomer family- The areas which have been identified as strong Satanic stronghold within the Watchtower religious empire are:

    Southern California (cap. San Bernadino Valley), Florida, the Carribean, Scotland, Bethel Headquarters in Brooklyn, and various places in New York. I expect that this list of strongholds is very incomplete. According to an eye witness of the Illuminati within the Watchtower Society the following items can be ascertained:

    ? Some type of trauma based mind control is being used to create MPD and control children born into the Illuminati within the WF Society.

    ? The rank and file JWs have no awareness that the WT Society has a secret upper level of involvement. (Note, I identified this upper level in my chart explaining how religions are controlled by Satanism.)

    ? The Illuminati within the Jehovah?s Witnesses have a hidden agenda that is separate from the published goals of the WT Society, although they also support many of the goals of the Society.

    This too, as you scroll:

    "One of the strangest things for this Author was to continue running into evidence that seems to indicate Charles Taze Russell, the man who started the Jehovah?s Witnesses? Watchtower Society, was secretly an important Satanist. Lest the reader devalue the evidence, permit this author to state that the evidence came in first before I came up with my theory that Russell was an important Satanist, and not vice-versa. Some of the outstanding clues are:

    a.) C.T. Russell was definitely a Mason, yet he puts up some great smokescreens in his writing concerning his membership.

    b.) C.T. Russell?s Bethel staff became concerned about his occultic activities and required him to take an oath forswearing any further occultic activities.

    c.) In my previous book The Watchtower and the Masons, I study 35 parallel beliefs that Russell had with Masonry. I spent a page per parallel. These 35 are not in any way inclusive, Russell had many other identical ideas to what the Masonic lodges propogate.

    d.) Various items from magic were part of Russell?s religious beliefs including healing handkerchiefs, phrenology, the Winged-Sun-Disk, Enochian Magical planes, etc.

    e.) Russell?s family?s possible Illuminati links, and his wife?s possible connections with a family line of Satanists.

    f.) Russell?s apparent secret Rosicrucian membership with the Quakertown, PA group of Rosicrucians, as revealed by the pyramid he ordered erected, his use of the Winged-Sun-Disk. and his cremation three days after his death.

    g.) Russell owned a cemetary in Pittsburgh. Leading Satanists try to own cemetaries for several reasons. First, it facilitates the disposal of human sacrifices which are buried in pieces below the fresh holes dug for someone else?s burial. When the casket is placed in the hole, it would be rare for anyone to dig below the casket level ever again. Second, magic power is associated with cemetaries. The spiritual power of the dead is pulled up by making a circle of light over them then within the circle a naked Satanist lays. Third, specific bones are sought such as the skulls and left hands. Left hands are preserved in order to hold candles for certain ceremonies.

    h.) Contacts from various places today indicate that the modern Watchtower Society is working with the New World Order. This implies that at some point the Society began cooperating with the New World Order. Russell seems to be the likeliest starting point.

    UNDERSTANDING CHARLES T. RUSSELL

    As with all occult organizations a veil of secrecy is maintained by requiring initiates to take secrecy oaths on penalty of death. As in Witchcraft, Masonry repeatedly demands secrecy oaths at every new level. Charles T. Russell began participating in this secrecy when he took the Entered Apprentice (first Masonic degree) oath on penalty of mayhem and violent death, "I ... do hereby and hereon most solemnly and sincerely promise and swear that I will always hail, ever conceal and never reveal any of the arts, parts or points of the secret arts and mysteries of ancient Freemasonry which I received, am about to receive, or may hereafter be instructed in ..."
    (Excerpt from 13 Satanic Bloodlines of the Illuminati, Fritz Springmeier)

    sKally, burp

    If man was supposedly created in gods image, then.....holy krap...we're all doomed.-sKallyWagger

  • apostate man
    apostate man

    Thats a good site, SF. I have already come to my own conclusions that WT is of a Satanic nature. I see the blood doctrine, for example, as being nothing more than a Satanic sacrifice. It makes sense to die when your not actually saved by God, if your a Satanist.

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