How many hours are falsely reported?

by badboy 92 Replies latest jw friends

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  badboy

  In the January 1 issue of each year, they harp on about how many hours the JWs did last year etc etc.

  How many hours are possibly falsely reported?

  Discuss,please
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  Mister Biggs

  I always add between 3-5 on my slip every month.
  So, you can confidently say that the report is overestimated by 36-60 each year.
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  roybatty

  How in the world would anyone know? Any estimate would be a wild guess. Most JWs don't even keep track of their time. When I was the service overseer I'd have to track done many in the congregation asking them for their time. All of them would walk to where the time slips were, take one and write something down just to get me off of their back or to not be placed on the irregular list.
  Ok, I'll take a wild stab at it. I'd say based upon the above mentioned exp. and also that most JWs count breaks as service time, about 1/3 of the time reported is not spent preaching. And this doesn't even include the well know trick of doing return vists (two go the door while two or three others sit in the car). Come to think of it, if any business were run this way they'd be out of business fast.
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  Leander

  I have a lot of issues about this reporting of time. First off, where in the bible is it required that servants of God must tabulate their time spent preaching in order to be considered righteous. Better yet where in the bible is it even said that all christians must preach. In fact if we were to use the first century congregation as a model for the preaching work then it would become apparent that after studying the scriptures that nowhere is it mentioned that all members of the congregation were involved in the preaching work.

  I could be wrong about this but lately I've been thinking that the reason the WTBS is so insistent on every JW being involved in the preaching work is so that they can force a prophecy into fulfilment. We've all heard the scripture "this good news must be preached to all the inhabited earth and then the end will come". It seems to me that the WTBS beleives they can make the end come sooner by constantly pushing all JWs into constant field service work.
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  gumby

  A lot!!!!!!!!!!
  I have known many who add time especially if their time for the month is low. 2-3 hours would not be a long stretch for many pubs to add on.

  If publishers counted time as they are suppose to, there would be even less time reported

  Counting your own child as a return visit when you study with them is a real winner the society uses.
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  metatron

  In the western world, possibly most hours are phoney.

  Typical Saturday: Spend two hours going door to door,
  actually talk to 5 people - amount of time ACTUALLY spent
  speaking to disinterested people - less than 4 minutes.

  Amount of time counted 2 hours.

  metatron
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  TR

  If the time reported was only when you actually TALK to somebody, I'd say 80 to 90% of the time reported is bogus.

  TR

  I hold it to be the inalienable right of anybody to go to hell in his own way.
  --Robert Frost, 1935
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  jukief

  For the last 10 years I was a dub, I turned in five hours a month, but I *never* went out in service. I didn't want the elders hassling me; I was having enough trouble without getting labeled inactive and getting "sheparding calls" from the elders. My dad has turned in five hours a month for the last 25 years, for the same reason. He hasn't been out in service since 1976. :-)

  I'm sure a LOT of people turn in bogus time. One of my ex-JW friends told me about her ex-husband, who was a pioneer and the darling of the congregation because he placed so many magazines--several hundred a month! Well, guess how he placed them? Threw them directly into the dumpster, didn't even make a pretense of distributing them at beauty parlors or laundromats. And then he watched porn when he was supposed to be out on his magazine route and she was at work all day, supporting his "pioneer" habit.

  I always just laugh when I see the society's numbers. What a joke.
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  ThiChi

  You have hit a nerve! As an Elder, I saw first hand the pressure other Elders and publishers were put under to make time. I remember one PO that required all elder’s publisher’s cards to be filled out in pencil. Before the Cos visit, he would go around and revisit your time card if it was below standards (10hr.). I witnessed the PO erase reported time and place another higher number in its place(only after a little rationalizing). Works of law...............

  In service, we never took "a break" so as not to stop reporting time. However, We would meet at a coffee shop to “regroup,” so as to keep reporting time! (learned that from a CO!) Word play..........
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  DIAMOND

  I know the time has to be over inflated. I know I report 4 hours a month. Thats my family study every week. Which in turn lets me report one bible study. Which in turn lets me report 4 return visits. Then I add one hour for door to door work. Thats 5 hours 4rvs and 1 bs. When the real deal is I haven't done any time at all. Now if I'm doing that how many more people are doing the same. The hours can not in any way shape or form be true.