Pop, things have changed and is changing.

by jam 12 Replies latest jw friends

  • jam
    jam

    This past weekend my JW daughter and family came

    to visit. This daughter not like my other daughter keeps in

    contact. So when she is in town, she will stop by with the

    kids. When we are togather we do not talk religion, but not

    the case with her husband.

    In town for the one day assembly and to see my four week old

    grandson, name after me.

    So all was going well until I was in the kitchen and my son-in-law

    came in. Now they just came from the assembly so he was fired up.

    Pop, when are you going to come back. At the assembly we saw

    your brother(elder) and his family, his grandkids his kids all sitting

    togather. I looked at my wife(my daughter) and tears were streaming

    down her cheeks. She said I wish my dad was here, with us.

    Pop, things have changed, there are A lot of lies out there. You

    told me about the UN, that,s A baldface lie.

    Me, son it,s not A lie, have you research your self.

    It can,t be true, he said.

    Pop, we are told to contact people that have been out for

    many years, like yourself.

    I really did not feel like debating, I knew it was all BS.

    This is the son-in-law that convince my daughter that KFC

    grows chicken breasts only.(reason why they are so large)

    In the borg all his life and never been A MS, 44yrs. old.

    To make A long story short, I ask him one question, explain

    the new Generation change. He could not answer. And

    then I told him, I am A agnostic. He was speechless.

    But he did agree to hear me out ,why I am A agnostic.

    These people never give up, my God I have been out since

    1987.

  • Shawn10538
    Shawn10538

    Some people are entirely resistant to change. But if he's in your house you get to have the last word and you have to be respected. I hope you put him in his place.

  • RayPublisher
    RayPublisher

    They are captive to a concept. So sad, so true.

    They love you though- they are trying to "help you" in their JW way. I know you know that of course.

    Mr. Jam you just keep doing what you are doing...

  • Phizzy
    Phizzy

    Anybody got a kindly response that will still make them think when they say "We wish you would come back ?"

    I can think of many responses that are way too forthright for some of the people I love, they just wouldn't want to hear the sort of thing like "I never will",

    but, how to put it ?

  • Room 215
    Room 215

    Yes, trying to talk people back into the organization is the main theme of the current Special Day assemblies; they've been pushing this notion hard since the Memorial.

  • blondie
    blondie

    I wonder where he got the info about KFC chicken breasts? Evidently he believed that source as gospel and I'm sure it was non-jw not from the WTS.

  • blond-moment
    blond-moment

    "It can't be true"....is not the same as it isn't true....."I don't want to believe it"...not the same as it isn't true...."I think it's a lie"...not the same as it isn't true.

    The UN was a hard one for me too, I didn't want it to be true either. However, wanting and wishing never changed facts. After that I just got downright ticked off at their lame excuses. It was like talking to a child who was trying to get out of trouble. Just infuriating.

    So glad you have family that still meet with you. I think a wee baby named Jam is so cute. haha

  • jam
    jam

    Shawn; Yes, you must show respect in my home,

    with me and my wife. I am pleased about that. My

    daughter made it clear before they got married, you

    will always show respect with my father.

    Ray: That,s what makes it so difficult with my daughter.

    She told the Elders, my brother, my Ex-JW wife and others

    over the years I will never shun my Father. And now they

    tell her, ok now you can speak to him.

    Phizzy:That,s a hard one. If you really wont to know

    why I have not return I will be more then happy to

    tell you why. And Satan have not corrupt my mind.

    215: So what about the shunning after all these years.

    All the ex-members that have been hurt, now it,s OK.

    Blondie: I have no idea where he came up with that

    ridiculous story. But it only show the logic among the

    witnesses. They will beleive A toy to be evil and when

    the truth hit them in the face, they will not believe.

    They can not handle the truth.

    Blond-moment: Yes, when I told him that about 2yrs.

    ago (UN) it has been on his mind. But still refuse to believe.

    This daughter, the love and respect she has shown over

    the years, I would consider going to the KH with her and

    her family while visiting them. She have never stop showing

    love to me and my wife. And to name my grandson after me,

    to much.

  • troubled mind
    troubled mind

    jam ,sounds like your daughter is a 'one in a millon ' !!! What a wonderful tribute to you she is by being so loving and smart . Congratulations on the new grandson ,and a namesake too !!! awesome

  • maccauk11
    maccauk11

    Pray for her deliverance

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