If Jesus is not my mediator, why was I taught to pray through him?

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  • irondork
    irondork

    If Jesus was never my mediator, as taught by the WTS, ...

    Worldwide Security Under the "Prince of Peace" (1986) pp.10-11 ch.1 The Desire for Peace and Security Worldwide

    Likewise, the Greater Moses, Jesus Christ, is not the Mediator between Jehovah God and all mankind. He is the Mediator between his heavenly Father, Jehovah God, and the nation of spiritual Israel, which is limited to only 144,000 members.

    then why have I been taught all my life to pray through him as if he were my...

    w10 10/1 Prayer - How? pp.6-7

    Here is yet another essential aspect of how to pray. Jesus said: “No one comes to the Father except through me.” (John 14:6) So Jesus is the means of our approach to the Father, Jehovah. Thus, Jesus told his followers to pray in his name. (John 14:13; 15:16) That does not mean that we should pray to Jesus. Rather, we pray in the name of Jesus, remembering that Jesus is the reason that we are able to approach our perfect and holy Father.

    (clears throat)... MEDIATOR? According to WT corporate policy, shouldn't we have been offering our prayers in the name of the governing body?

  • biometrics
    biometrics
    If Jesus is not my mediator, why was I taught to pray through him?

    The same reason you were baptized in the name of the Watchtower instead of the Holy Spirit. You were deceived.

  • blondie
    blondie

    (1 Timothy 2:1-8) 2 I therefore exhort, first of all, that supplications, prayers, intercessions, offerings of thanks, be made concerning all sorts of men, 2 concerning kings and all those who are in high station; in order that we may go on leading a calm and quiet life with full godly devotion and seriousness. 3 This is fine and acceptable in the sight of our Savior, God, 4 whose will is that all sorts of men should be saved and come to an accurate knowledge of truth. 5 For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, a man, Christ Jesus, 6 who gave himself a corresponding ransom for all—[this is] what is to be witnessed to at its own particular times. 7 For the purpose of this witness I was appointed a preacher and an apostle—I am telling the truth, I am not lying—a teacher of nations in the matter of faith and truth. 8 Therefore I desire that in every place the men carry on prayer, lifting up loyal hands, apart from wrath and debates.

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    What was Paul discussing in this scripture, prayer, and in conjuction with Jesus mediatorship.

    Or in this article, and the next, it is clear that the WTS connects prayer with Jesus mediatorship.

    *** w04 4/1 p. 32 Should We Call Upon Angels for Help? ***However, angels do not serve as intercessors who bring human prayers to the throne of the Most High. God has determined that prayers be addressed to him in the name of his Son, Jesus Christ, who said: “No matter what you ask the Father in my name he might give it to you.”—John 15:16; 1 Timothy 2:5.

    *** w02 7/1 p. 8 Worship God “in Spirit” ***Is it proper to pray to Jesus’ earthly mother, Mary, or to particular “saints,” asking them to intercede with God in one’s behalf? The Bible’s direct answer is: “There is only one mediator between God and mankind, himself a man, Christ Jesus.”—1 Timothy 2:5.

    *** w97 2/15 p. 28 Agreement Between “God’s Temple” and Idols in Greece? ***Furthermore, in a very clear way, the Scriptures rule out the idea of praying to “saints” in order for them to act as intercessors with God. In his model prayer, Jesus taught that prayers are to be addressed to the Father only, since he directed his disciples: “You must pray, then, this way: ‘Our Father in the heavens, let your name be sanctified.’” (Matthew 6:9) Jesus further stated: “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me. If you ask anything in my name, I will do it.” And the apostle Paul stated: “There is one God, and one mediator between God and men, a man, Christ Jesus.”—John 14:6, 14; 1 Timothy 2:5.

  • outsmartthesystem
    outsmartthesystem

    VERY good point!

  • designs
    designs

    Saint Paul- Women not allowed.

  • blondie
    blondie

    The WTS is very adept about speaking out of both sides of their mouth, saying one thing and then contradicting it in the same year.

  • Ding
    Ding

    The WT considers "Jesus" as a password to get through to Jehovah.

  • blond-moment
    blond-moment

    blondie you are right of course, they have mastered speaking out of both sides of their mouth. Sometimes in the same article...same breath. It really is amazing how good they are at it.

  • Fernando
    Fernando

    The old NWT: "For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, a man, Christ Jesus"

    The updated NWT due out someday: "For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, an organisation, the Watchtower and its Sanhedrin (GB)"

  • clarity
    clarity

    blond-m so very true .....

    " they have mastered speaking out of both sides of their mouth. Sometimes in the same article...same breath."

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    ... and then denying that they ever said it!!!!!!!!, evil bas$$$

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