Anyone else have (or used to have) their DCs at Hawthorne Race Track in IL?

by outsmartthesystem 22 Replies latest jw experiences

  • outsmartthesystem
    outsmartthesystem

    Remember the gold cup room and the "barrel seats"? Boy....talk about brotherly love. When I was a kid, I worked in food prep for our hall. I would get to the DC at 7:30 to start setting out the danishes and OJs and what not. I used to love when it turned 8:00 because there would be a WALL of people waiting to get in. When the attendant would open the doors there would be a BULL RUSH of "brothers" and "sisters" literally elbowing one another as they raced across the concourse to get to teh "barrel seats" and the "gold cup room". The "barrel seats" were exactly what they sound like. Very cushiony....comfortable....swiveling...barrel shaped chairs with a small desk in front of you. The gold cup room had cushioned chairs and was rather dimly lit (good for sleeping). The other 10,000 seats were hard plastic. At 8am......all these loving brothers and sisters would literally run and trample one another to get to the "good seats". I even personally witnessed on more than one occasion, people moving other people's books onto the floor so they could claim a "good" seat for themselves. Shouting matches would ensue....and the attendents would have to step in.

    Yep. The only thing better to watch than a nerd fight at school was a JW verbal sparring match where both sides had to watch what they say.

  • Remington
  • Remington
  • outsmartthesystem
    outsmartthesystem

    Rem - U might want to try a different browser

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  • Billy the Ex-Bethelite
    Billy the Ex-Bethelite

    You'd have found me in the hard plastic seats. I think they stopped having DCs there because it was a gambling establishment... and that's certainly against their religion. So, they relocated to Northern Illinois University Convocation Center... yet "higher education" is also against their religion.

    Go figure...

  • AK MCGRATH
    AK MCGRATH

    You bet I remember the Hawthorne Race Track....and what I remember ain't pretty.

    I think it was my first time I went to Hawthorne, and I was still studying. I didn't know about these coveted seats. I was just walking and looking for a seat with a good view to the stage. As I was about to place my books in the seat and search for others I knew, this "brother" bum rushes the chair and throws his stuff in it. I was stunned and pissed all at the same time. I let him have the chair, and I said to him, "Wow! THAT'S being Christian!" I ended up sitting in a hard plastic chair elsewhere. ASSHOLE!

    Our congo was in "charge of" making the sand's for the afternoon session, and once I started to help making them (after I was deemed worthy enough, of course) I never understood why we stayed into the start of the program. I mean, there we'd be, and all of a sudden everything got silent and around me it looked as if Jehovah sprinkled "freeze dust" upon us. We stopped what we were doing and looked like friggin mannequins with sandwhiches in hand, mid air, or on the table, and bowed our heads in prayer. Crazy ass shit, looking back, but it was total loyalty while you were in it.

    The final thing I NEVER understood was HOW in the hell can you rent out a facility whose practices you condemn? Of course now I understand it is because of the greedy bastards aka WTBTS wanting $$ (paid parking, donations, etc.) so they didn't care where they held a convention, as long as they were rolling in some mulah.

    Some of the "bros & sis's" (even the "bigwigs") tried to explain to me that it didn't matter this was a gaming house, because, you see, when WE were there, it magically turned into a house of worship. Huh! That's some pretty awesome renovation shit right there, I tell ya. And yea, I bought into it for some time, but that nagging feeling inside me (common fucking sense and the HATRED for hypocrisy) got the better of me, and so when I questioned why "we" couldn't find another place within the realm of possibilities, I was looked at like, how dare YOU, little peon sister! Now be gone from our greatness!

    When we were admonished to invite worldly people we knew (and that better NOT be people we were choosing to hang with, but more like family or co-workers), I was embarrassed to do so. I felt like a total hypocrite, especially when they reacted the same way I did. "How can you have a religious program at a racetrack?", my Catholic co-worker inquired. Aren't JW's againt gambling. Oh, Charmaine, you silly worldly good-for-nothing Catholic. Don't you see? Yes, "JW's are against gambling, but when WE are there, it is no longer a racetrack, but it is transformed into a spiritual paradise" with Jehovah God as our landlord for three days. Well, three days times as many DC's there are. Let's just say Jehovah OWNS that racetrack's ass for the Summer, shall we? In fact, Charmaine, DID YOU KNOW we even leave the racktrack in a greater condition than when we arrived?" Oh brother (no pun intended)! As I am typing this, I realize what a big farce that was, too. Hey everyone! Let's get Satan's house of play into even BETTER shape...Jehovah's gonna destroy them anyway, so let them have their fun while they can. Worldly fools! After a while, I didn't even invite anyone. I couldn't justify us having anything to do with the racetrack.

    They then started to have the DC's on a college campus, (which again is hypocritical, since they advise against getting a college degree for the most part) and I thought it was pretty far away. As always, we were supposed to invite people, but I would always end up sharing a room with a best friend of mine. So to me, if someone actually wanted to go, I would either have to drive over 1 hour back and forth each day or share my room with this interested person. Um, how the hell do I know this is a stable person and won't stab us in the middle of the night? Just because you have a return visit or bible study with someone, it doesn't make them roommate material! I'm not saying anything WOULD have happened, but I'm not saying it WOULDN'T HAVE, either. Criminy! I definitely wouldn't ask some sisters I knew to share a room for a few days INSIDE the "truth". What makes the WTBTS think I would want a possible stranger sneaking into my bed in the middle of the night spooning me (Unless she was cute of course..lmao) or knifing me to death?

    It's incredible how, once you are out of all that bullshit, you can stand back and just look in amazement at what we accepted because of men claiming to be spokespersons for God Almighty. I am so fucking grateful to be where I am today. I don't have to fight anyone for a seat. I also can pray BEFORE I eat my sandwhich and not while I'm making it. Lastly, I have no worries about anyone spooning me in the middle of the night that I don't want to.

  • OnTheWayOut
    OnTheWayOut

    After Hawthorne park, they used the new White Sox baseball stadium for a few years. Everyone hated that one. Then they got the University Convocation Center in Dekalb. It's so remote from Chicago but not far enough to justify a hotel stay.

    You guys really take me back with Gold Cup Room stories. I remember a grandmother who was telling the grandson to duck and weave through those adults at 8am and get those seats. By then, most families had figured out that you needed an inside volunteer in the family to get past the doors before 8am. They weren't allowed to save seats before 8am but when the crowd was down at the front door still, your inside volunteer was in the Gold Cup Room (with several other volunteers) putting their personal belongings on the coveted chairs at 8am plus a few seconds. It baffled the running crowd how they were the first ones to get there yet most chairs were already saved.

    At Hawthorne Horse Track, you sat inside in air conditioning and looked out through glass to the podium across the track- and the podium was outside in the summer heat.

    Do you remember watching mother ducks walking the ducklings to the pond or watching horses being run off to the sides (instead of paying attention to the talk)? Or watching workers mow the grass inside of the track? Even when you got the hard plastic seats, you folded a blanket or brought a cushion and there were so many great distraction.

  • the_raisin
    the_raisin

    Ha! I used to live around there actually!!! I remember how the South Chicago and suburbs congregations would reminisce and lament the fact that they could no longer hold the conventions so close. We always had to drive to Rockford or Bloomington, and I LOVED the travel part of it, it meant Steak N Shake and fancy dining :D AND THE POOL AT THE HOTEL!!! My god, the things that went on in the pool, in the hot tub, and IN THE STEAM ROOM!!!

  • troubled mind
    troubled mind

    Yes , We went to Hawthorne ,but never sat in the coveted seats that I can remember . We towed three young kids along and were always early because my husband volunteered in First Aid . I do remember watching the ducks ,LOL.

    Went to the ballpark a few times (hated it ) . We started going to Springfield instead to be with friends ( and got reprimanded for not following theocratic direction ) Finally ignored the Elders and never once went to DeKalb ,just went where ever we wanted then stopped all together .

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