Homo Australipithecus / Hablis / Erectus / Heidelbergensis / Neanderthalensis / Denisovans

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  ziddina

  Botchtower:

  BTS---do you know of any theories that deal with Neanderthal specifically? [New Chapter]

  Well, I am not sure, but I think it was you that linked one regarding Neanderthals not using projectile weapons.

  All I am saying is that absence of evidence isn't evidence of absence. We already know that hominims were using exquisitely fashioned projectile weapons around 400k ago--before or near the time Neanderthals came on the scene (thre is a lot of overlap between the two).

  There is also evidence that Neanderthals and Sapiens also shared the same materials culture at one point.
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  ziddina

  james_woods:

  I read an article which made the claim that the Neanderthals produced primative cave art and it is suspected that was for some form of burial ritual.

  Are we off topic, or is this becoming a Smart Neanderthal/Dumb Neanderthal thread?
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  ziddina

  New Chapter:

  Well, I am not sure, but I think it was you that linked one regarding Neanderthals not using projectile weapons.

  Yeah, I did link it because I had a tickle in my brain that said I may have read some research showing something different---that's why I wondered if you had something I could read. Maybe it was just a passing comment since I don't remember details.

  And it's true, spears shafts are soft material and don't last (usually) so there is a void. I thought they looked at patterns of bone breakage to come to some loose conclusions too. Yet the more we learn about N, it seems the more developed he becomes, and I find that quite interesting.

  NC
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  ziddina

  Zid:

  Yes, according to what I've read so far, the Neanderthals did practice some sort of burial ritual.
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  ziddina

  New Chapter:

  Are we off topic, or is this becoming a Smart Neanderthal/Dumb Neanderthal thread?

  Doesn't that sum up most of our threads?
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  ziddina

  Botch:

  I thought they looked at patterns of bone breakage to come to some loose conclusions too.

  Surviving neanderthals fossils had a lot of injuries similar to those of rodeo participants, which suggests that they did a lot of close in hands on hunting with large animals.
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  ziddina

  New Chapter:

  Yeah Zid---there is evidence of burial ritual---but cave paintings are new to me. LINK, LINK, LINK---pleeeezzzeeee
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  ziddina

  Botch:

  Ditto for Heidelbergensis.

  http://humanorigins.si.edu/resources/whats-hot/mystery-pit-bones-atapuerca-spain
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  ziddina

  New Chapter:

  Surviving neanderthals fossils had a lot of injuries similar to those of rodeo participants

  'zactly. Which leads one to wonder what researchers will surmise in 300k years when they dig up rodeo participant bones. Perhaps Neanderthal invented rodeos!

  But I thought that it was a biological thing. N didn't have the fuller range to be able to throw as effectively as H.S. Which doesn't mean they didn't throw, why wouldn't they, but just that they were incapable of doing so with the effectiveness that we can. Except me. I throw like a girl.

  NC
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  Leolaia

  This thread brings back a childhood memory. When I was 12 I was interested in the Flood and antediluvian life (such as Enoch and Noah) and I found a cave art drawing depicting an orgy, with I believe dozens of erect penises, and I copied it out by hand and kept it with the rest of my Bible things in my desk, and one day my mom cleaned my room and found it and went nuts thinking I was fantasizing about some massive orgy, and she confronted me about it, and I said...Noooo!!! It's a historical document! It depicts things that happened before the Flood! My interest is only intellectual! lol Good thing she didn't take that to the elders.