Bush administration and the press

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Seeker

Sorry, but cursory mention is not exactly what I call intense digging.
Are you kidding? We taxpayers paid for years of hearings into Clinton's past by conservatives trying to dig up anything they could find on the guy.
Did you forget all the mentions of "trailer park trash" of Paula Jones? Did you forget all the denials and refusals to speak of draft dodging? Where was I, you ask? May I ask where were you?
'Where were you'? What are you talking about? I was referring to two sentences you wrote in this thread where you talk about how digging up dirt is a liberal practice. In fact, both sides do it, including your side. You tried to make it a partisan sin. It is a bipartisan sin.
Seeker

sunscapes,
No apology necessary, but your kindness is saying so is noted with appreciation.
Politics is dirty business, all right.
DakotaRed

'Where were you'? What are you talking about? I was referring to two sentences you wrote in this thread where you talk about how digging up dirt is a liberal practice. In fact, both sides do it, including your side. You tried to make it a partisan sin. It is a bipartisan sin.
My side? Sorry, but I am neither consevative nor liberal, although I do lean more towards the conservative. Yes, "we" taxpayers did pay for lots of hearings, but the liberal press only did a cursory investigation themselves. Yet, now that a conservative is on the white house, they seem ready to spare no expense at trying to find dirt, even to create it, if necessary.
You think my sticking up for one side while you slander the other is making it a partisan sin? It always has amused me to see liberals drudge up anything they can against a conservative and call it "awaking the public senses." Yet, if a conservative exposes, tries to expose or just sticks up for the conservative side and it is making a "partisan sin," "wasting taxpayer dollars," or, to quote James Carvell, just trailer park trash! Intersting set of double standards liberals live by and try to impose on others.
Yes, politics are dirty and both sides are involved, but it seems only the conservatives need to be exposed and by liberals, of course. Personally, for all their cries of tolerance, I find liberals to be the most intolerant people of all. They sure can't stand to believe anything about their "boys." Just look at your defense of Clinton. Not once have you admitted that he too, is a scumbag.
If you wish me to believe you are tolerant and unbiased, stop pointing your fingers at only conservatives and bring out the misgivings of your liberals too.
If God's Spirit is filling a Kingdom Hall, how is it that Satan can manuever the ones within that Kingdom Hall at the same time?
Seeker

My side? Sorry, but I am neither consevative nor liberal, although I do lean more towards the conservative. Yes, "we" taxpayers did pay for lots of hearings, but the liberal press only did a cursory investigation themselves. Yet, now that a conservative is on the white house, they seem ready to spare no expense at trying to find dirt, even to create it, if necessary.
That paragraph speaks for itself. You are condemned out of your own mouth by repeating conservative propaganda. Even using the canard "liberal press" tells me you haven't seen through the lies.
Am I tolerant and unbiased in this area? No way! I condemn all of 'em. If I'm picking on conservatives at the moment, it's because they are in power, as I already told you.
Now, when you stop parroting false statements that have been fed you by conservative sources, you will come to see that both sides are playing dirty and we are all caught in the middle.
Guest 77

Were mere 'pawns' in the game. Were only fooling ourselves to think that the dems.& rep. are different, they are working for the same boss. Next act please.
Guest 77
DakotaRed

That paragraph speaks for itself. You are condemned out of your own mouth by repeating conservative propaganda.
Thank you for so eloquently proving my point about the liberal mind control. If from a conservative, it is propaganda. If it is from a liberal, then it is public awareness. ROFLMFAO!
Am I tolerant and unbiased in this area? No way! I condemn all of 'em. If I'm picking on conservatives at the moment, it's because they are in power, as I already told you.
Again, the liberal brainwashing shows. You can condemn conservatives while in power and claim it is only because they are in power. Yet, you still cannot admit that Herr Klinton, while in power and a staunch liberal, was as dirty. The Democrits have control of the House, remember? Is that not also power? yet, not one freaking word about Tom Daschle. Oh, that's right, he is liberal and cannot be dirty.
Now, when you stop parroting false statements that have been fed you by conservative sources, you will come to see that both sides are playing dirty and we are all caught in the middle.
Now, when you stop parroting false propaganda fed you by the liberal media sources, you will see that liberals are very bit, if not more so, dirty than the conservatives.
Just so you know, I have was raised a Democrat and switched to Republican. Now, I do not parrot either, but seek my own answers. But, when you only are willing to seek liberal ideals, then you end up just as controlled as the Watchtower does it's victims.
Case in point? The current argument over drilling in Alaska. How many calling for absolutely no drilling actually live in Alaska? Very few. Why are the lower 48 mandating what Alaska does? Power, that's why.
The current propaganda coming from the media is calling for all to call their Congressmen and call for them to impose stricter fuel economy standards on cars. They claim the technology is there and wnat to force the auto manufacturers to use it. How much fuel mileage do they wish to have cars increased by? 1 to 3 MPG, that's all. Will it increase mileage of cars on the road today? Absolutely not. You want to increase the mileage of cars? The maintain your car and change your driving habits. Better yet, don't drive it if you don't need to.
When you can equally call both sides on their demeanor, then you can say you are stuck in the middle. Me? I got out of the middle long ago and call them as I see them. Right now, I see Bush doing as good a job and better than that pussy Gore would have done. Is Bush perfect and meriting blanket approval? Hell no, but neither is the democrat controlled House of Representatives (where the real power in Government is situated, incidentally).
Any comments on Gary Condin?
If God's Spirit is filling a Kingdom Hall, how is it that Satan can manuever the ones within that Kingdom Hall at the same time?
Seeker

Thank you for so eloquently proving my point about the liberal mind control. If from a conservative, it is propaganda. If it is from a liberal, then it is public awareness. ROFLMFAO!
The source didn't matter to me. Your words mattered. You parrot conservative propaganda, I will point it out.
Again, the liberal brainwashing shows. You can condemn conservatives while in power and claim it is only because they are in power. Yet, you still cannot admit that Herr Klinton, while in power and a staunch liberal, was as dirty. The Democrits have control of the House, remember? Is that not also power? yet, not one freaking word about Tom Daschle. Oh, that's right, he is liberal and cannot be dirty.
Huh? Haven't you been paying attention? I condemn ALL of them, including Clinton. I didn't say anything about Daschle because this thread was about a column talking about the Bush administration. Let's take one topic at a time, shall we, not your political pet topics.
Now, when you stop parroting false propaganda fed you by the liberal media sources, you will see that liberals are very bit, if not more so, dirty than the conservatives.
As I have repeatedly said, if you were paying attention. And it is a conservative press nowadays, if you would keep up.
Just so you know, I have was raised a Democrat and switched to Republican. Now, I do not parrot either, but seek my own answers.
Very glad to hear it. I also seek my own answers (see my handle). But I have to tell you, the things you have said in this thread are parroting Republican sources, and thus my confusion over your state of mind.
But, when you only are willing to seek liberal ideals, then you end up just as controlled as the Watchtower does it's victims.
And the same is true of conservative ideas. As long as you pick sides, you miss the point. I don't pick sides, and I hope you don't either.
When you can equally call both sides on their demeanor, then you can say you are stuck in the middle. Me? I got out of the middle long ago and call them as I see them. Right now, I see Bush doing as good a job and better than that pussy Gore would have done.
None of us has any clue what Gore would have been like. One can never tell how a VP will act once he is allowed to be his own man. Bush Sr. was a pussy when he was VP, then he became president and launched Desert Storm. What would Gore have done? We have no idea, you included.
Certainly nobody expected W. to be competent, yet he has shown some excellent organizational skills.
Is Bush perfect and meriting blanket approval? Hell no, but neither is the democrat controlled House of Representatives (where the real power in Government is situated, incidentally).
You might think back to your history lessons and realize we have three branches of government, none of which has ultimate power, and that is how it should be.
Any comments on Gary Condin
A total sleaze. In other words, a typical politician.
Look, I don't want to turn this into the Dakota versus Seeker thread. This is about a specific article and a specific topic. You can believe what you want to believe, and believe what you want about yourself. I think we want to approach things in a similar way, and I have no argument with you, even if I disagree with some of your comments. That's just the nature of a discussion.
herbert

Seeker,
DRed said:
Just so you know, I have was raised a Democrat and switched to Republican. Now, I do not parrot either, but seek my own answers.
It never fails to amaze me that because the vested interests have decided that there should be only two categories, people think that are only two categories of thought. Someone who didn't "parrot" either wouldn't label themselves as one or the other either.
Herbert
Seeker

herbert,
Yes, and I think it is in the best interests of those in power to keep the populace polarized this way. The one thing they don't want is to have everyone think for themselves. In that, politicians resemble the Governing Body yet again.
DakotaRed

It never fails to amaze me that because the vested interests have decided that there should be only two categories, people think that are only two categories of thought. Someone who didn't "parrot" either wouldn't label themselves as one or the other either.
Herbert
Just for the record, I do not even believe in the two party system, but it is what we are stuck with. Right now, Bush is doing a job that needs to be done. I feel it should have been done over thirty years ago. But, to denigrate Bush only and let socialist democrats slide as being somewhat better, goes against everything I feel and believe.
Do I curently support Bush? Mostly, yes. Am I all for his expanding the fight? Not unless he gets more foreign support. Do I think he is raping the ecology and ignoring issues at home? Not even close. But, the fighting does take up much of his time.
However, as long as the liberal socialists control the media and we have another election year coming up, we are guarunteed to here every bit of dirt that can be found or manufactured about the Republicans.
When it comes to slinging mud, the Democrits are second to none!
This will be my final post on this thread. As Seeker said, I do not want it to turn to a Seeker vs Dakota thread. We obviously disagree and I only wish others would wake up to the mind controlling techniques used by the Liberals. If you want to see parroting, they and the Watchtowers techniques are very similar, in my opinion.
If God's Spirit is filling a Kingdom Hall, how is it that Satan can manuever the ones within that Kingdom Hall at the same time?

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