by mP 32 Replies latest jw friends
Morbidzbaby,
Your dad is correct that new or reappointments are questioned. However, the wording is such that more or less like "is there anything that you have done since baptism or your last appointment that you would feel required a judical committee? Lots of wiggle room on that questioned. I don't ever remember them specifically asking about child abuse.
DON'T THROW AWAY YOUR REASONING FROM THE SCRIPTURES BOOK !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
we will need them in 2014
The Reasoning book gives a clear statement of a prophecy through out the book
and they claim in this book to be true prophets. it's all in one
Learn how to use this book and get "SURGICAL" wit it
We need to show them that New light can't cover this shite
and point out in a clear consise manner that they are nothin' like the Apostles
but indeed false prophets
Have not Jehovah's Witnesses made errors in their teaching?
Jehovah's witnesses do not claim to be inspired prophets. They have made mistakes. Like the apostles of Jesus Christ, they have at times had some wrong expectaions ___Luke 19:11 ; Acts 1:6__________Reasoning from the scriptures book page 136
Lets break this mess down
Yes they claim to meet the qualifications of a true prophet
" If any individual or organizations claim to represent God but decline to use God's personal name, and make it a practice to express their own opinion on matters, are they mearsuring up to this important qualification of a true prophet ?________Reasoning from the scriptures book page133
Yes they claim inspiration by the same holy spirit as the Apostles
" Likewise today, boldness in speaking the word of God, zealously engaging in the work of witnessing_these are what give evidence that a person has holy spirit." ( Spirit directed organization ) _________Reasoning from the Scriptures book page 382
There is no where in the Bible that show where the apostles taught the things they imagined or thought
read futher down from Luke 19:11 and Acts 1:6 you will see where Jesus corrected them
Jesus did not send them out teaching falsehoods. because that could cost not only their lives
but the lives of others
Hananiah taught people to believe in a falsehood but God
sent the true prophet Jeramiah, and what the true prophet spoke came to pass
without delay
This cult may not be obliterated, but 2014 and the Reasoning book together will open some eyes
Keep Hope Alive
The Watchtower Society should apologize, admit there is a problem and reform. I can't see them doing that. Also, their sins have been so great that this could cause a mass exodus and could actually increase the number of lawsuits that they have to face.
My guess is that they will do little in response to this except try protect their assets as best they can. There may even be a few in power who try to take the money and run.
It might not be too many years until the Watchtower headquarters becomes nothing more than a single website with a few downloads and a donate button.
JakeM2012, I guess my point was that even if they were directly questioned on that particular thing, how many would give a straight answer if they were guilty? I mean, they've hidden it all that time...long enough to jump through all the hoops in order to even be mentioned for appointment. They wouldn't wanna screw that up with a confession. So the questioning itself isn't worth anything.
I hope and believe this lawsuit should trigger many more. We all know the pedos in the org are in a very high number compared to general population.
It will look the same as many pointed out. People are blind and that won't change. JWs focus on persons in need of fulfillment from external sources and unfortunately, life is hard so they will continue to sell dreams and rainbows. Bait and switch if you ask me.
It will be the same. There might be a small decrease due to low convert numbers but I don't expect a mass exodus.
This is just wishful thinking, but I hope they are NOTHING by the end of 2012.
A million to one shot, however a girl can dream can't she.
I know what you all mean and I totally agree...
But all this helps, even a little. The society look more dated and cob-webbed by the day. Every year they seem more cultish and less free. The Internet will continue to offer easy access to answers for interested ones and followers. Time will see the watchtower fall into a heap, bigger structures with deeper foundations have fallen. We were just unluck enough to be the modern day followers of Zeus, thankfully we didn't die for the cause.
When I think now of how much a JW has to blinker their eyes, the internal conflict of so many JWs must be intense. They can't watch a nature program, read a paper, buy a music album, pick up a scientific journal, go on the Internet, go to school, go to work, visit a library, visit a museum,turn on the news at night.... Without hearing, reading and seeing things that are a complete contradiction to what the 8 dudes in Brooklyn have told them. The NBC reported last week that graduates at university bring to the economy ten times more than what it costs the government to educate them, it also said they bring in a considerable amount more than non educated. JWs will have heard that after, during , before their district assembly. Yes they may block it out, but they can't escape it anymore... Welcome to modern society where knowledge flows and knowledge is power. The uk are soon going to make all scientific papers free and open access.
When I was growing up I was desperate to know how old the earth was in the opinion of worldly scientists and how they knew it and what the history of man was according to science. I figured I could marry what they said to genesis... Had I access to the Internet back then I could have typed it into google and had answers, evidence and proof that the bible was wrong in moments. I have no doubt the youth in the JWs are doing this because they can. It will all fall apart soon enough. I would not be surprised if they are messing with the figures already, I don't believe their memorial attendance figures for a second for last year. Everyone I asked said it was about normal if not a few less.
Anyway, enough of me waffling to myself. But in 10 years time, and 100 years have well and truly passed since 1914 ...the isolated men in Brooklyn will either go two ways... One start compromising old beliefs to keep people in or two go ultra tough and start banning access to information... In ten years time we will all be that more liberal and it just won't fly. Already the youth in the JWs have a very different view to gays as their parents.
The times they are a' changing.... (just slowly)
Lol wasblind you are surgical with that reasoning book :-)
