After the Conti verdict last week, the list of high crimes committed by the Witness organization led by its Governing Body just gets longer and longer. In addition to harboring, protecting and even legally defending child molesters, the Governing Body is also guilty of being defacto false prophets, stumblers of "little ones," blasphers of God with their "Jehovah hates everyone but us" teachings, causers of division between brothers with their shunning policy, among myriad other actions that have turned people against God. So, who in the Bible represents the Governing Body? The "evil slave," "Babylon the Great," the "wild beast," or someone else? It would interesting to know how God intends to destroy such evil.
Since it's obvious to true Christians that the Governing Body is apostate, are they represented by the "evil slave," the "man of lawlessness," the "antichrist" or someone else in the Scriptures?
by matt2414 13 Replies latest watchtower beliefs
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Black Sheep
So, who in the Bible represents the Governing Body? The "evil slave," "Babylon the Great," the "wild beast," or someone else?
These are doctrines of the WTBTS. If the WTBTS is rubbish, so are their doctrines.
Start afresh.
Even their choice of holy book is questionable if they made false prophesies on the basis of it.
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Fernando
Hey matt2414!
From my perspective the WBTS and their GB have no special/specific mention in scripture, and are just another part of the "world empire of religion" known as "Babylon the Great".
They are certainly part of the anti-Christ by preventing disciples from following Jesus instead of them.
They fit the description of the evil slave, although I do not believe this to be a class as such.
They are inhabited by the same spirit as the Pharisees and Sanhedrin. Their hidden contempt for the "unabridged good news" plays out as described in the book of John. They surreptitiously seek false and alternate accusations against any in their midst that would advance the "unabridged good news". Their aim is to expel these as described in John.
Their spiritual whoremongering and graven lust after the "god of religion" (Satan) exceeds that of most other religions. Few other religions pursue rule keeping (legalism), an external moral code (moralism), doctrinal dissection (ethnocentrism), and special knowledge (Gnosticism) quite so vigorously, and with the same supremacist self-righteous outcomes.
Apostasy is "spiritual unfaithfulness". The WBTS hides theirs by dishonestly redefining apostasy.
I am really saddened by the number of Watchtower dissenters that simply accept and go along with this.
Why take on board a label that rightly belongs to the Watchtower and not to us?
Why allow the Watchtower to keep raping dissenters spiritually, instead of calling them out on this? Why call them out on (physical) paedophilia alone?
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transhuman68
IMO they can’t be a class based on the Christian Scriptures, since they worship the Jewish desert god YWYH. Maybe they are the ‘Jephthah class’- since they are sons of harlots, and they sacrifice the younger generation to further their own interests, and make foolish promises.
... although they could just be a plague of frogs...
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Jeffro
The answer to the question in the thread title is, no. No magical guiding influence. No 'biblical' 'class' distinction. Just another man-made religion and just another corporation.
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irondork
Not to derail this thread, but...
Fernando: Why take on board a label that rightly belongs to the Watchtower and not to us?
I have always understood the use of the word "apostate" on this forum to be sarcastic. That those refering to themselves as apostates know they are not really. It was more of a snub at the ridiculous interpretation of the WTS. The only downside to this, is that the word loses the true weight of it's definition and the seriousness of the scriptural warning regarding apostacy.
Back to the thread...
The scriptural identity of the GB only seems important to us survivors of the JW movement. That seems natural enough since they have occupied such a prominent position in our thinking for so long and the importance of them has been hammered into our minds for so many years by... uhm, THEM! That old saying, "They are a legend in their own minds", comes to mind. But in the grand scheme of things, they are just another element of false religion, like Fernando so eloquently described.
Another old saying comes to mind: "They think they are hot shit on a silver platter. Turns out they are just cold turds on a paper plate."
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jookbeard
couldn't have put it better Matt.
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Finkelstein
In a sense they are apostates to true bible interpretation and understanding, more importantly they are false prophets
who've exploited the public belief in the bible for their own power and control over people as well to procure money.
A commercialized false prophet, built upon a publishing house.
And the bible makes it clear how to treat false prophets who use god's name.
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Balaamsass
Well since the new baptism talk in the mid 80s they have replaced Christ as mediator...so would that make them an "Anti-Christ" ?
Would that make them a disgusting thing standing where they ought not?
...or would their actions of sacrificing children( something that never entered Gods mind) to Molech make them Molech worshipers? (Didn't some of the Molech worshippers believe they were worshiping Jehovah?)....
Hey this good actually be a fun thread noooooo light...WTBTS..typical...antitypical...WTBTS in major/minor fullfilments...a la Freddy Franz.......apostates !!!!!!!
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jgnat
First of all, drop the "true Christian" schtick. It implies that there are hordes of imposters out there. Maybe most of us are doing the best we can.
As for defining the relative evilness of the Watchtower, I'd like to paraphrase Forrest, "Evil is as evil does."
To try and further refine their evil identity to me, looks like "tithing the cummin" while ignoring the weightier matters of the Law. Like kindness.