Lifeguard Lopez fired

by bobld 46 Replies latest jw friends

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  MeanMrMustard

  @Beks:

  Well MrM you can read whatever you want to in Wiki, I lived it. Worked for BofA in the Financial District in SF. Suddenly there were more "Financial Advisers" than finances.

  Perhaps you should get a Wiki username and edit the ME generation page. In any case, it just seemed like you were trying to pin an attitude like "ME" (greed) on Reagan... perhaps I was mistaken. My fault for reading into your statements.

  Look, it's really not hard to figure this stuff out. If you are willing to look. Otherwise, you are all the same as JWs sitting there nodding your heads at the propaganda.

  I took a look around and found numerious articles showing that there was a great deal of people getting rich in the 80s. Also, a great deal of money given to chairity too. Perhaps these stats are wrong:

  The "decade of greed" turned out to be fairly chairtable.

  Alas, we have strayed from the topic. We over-litigate today. It messes up lots of stuff IMHO.

  MMM
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  Berengaria

  LOL National Review?
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  talesin

  Liability ,, schmiability!!!!

  Okay, my job says I'm supposed to SIT HERE, WATCHING PEOPLE, but OH, there's someone drowning! I guess I better just sit here.

  COME ON, people!

  DOH and DRRR and WHAT WAS THAT COMPANY THINKING???????????

  We are taking coporatocracy to a new level. This is just wrong.

  argh!

  tal
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  MeanMrMustard

  @talesin:

  You wrote:

  Liability ,, schmiability!!!!

  Okay, my job says I'm supposed to SIT HERE, WATCHING PEOPLE, but OH, there's someone drowning! I guess I better just sit here.

  COME ON, people!

  DOH and DRRR and WHAT WAS THAT COMPANY THINKING???????????

  We are taking coporatocracy to a new level. This is just wrong.

  argh!

  tal

  I looked back over the posts, and I didn't see anyone saying that firing the life guard was the right thing to do. I don't really even see how this has anything to do with "corporatocracy". When you say, "WHAT WAS THAT COMPANY THINKING??" - that seems like exactly what people were trying to answer, at least that is what I was trying to answer. What motivation would the company have to make such a decision? They didn't want to get cleaned out by a lawsuit. Why would they have that fear? Because we live in a society that will litigate over retarded things. A kid buys a superman costume and thinks he can fly, jumps off the roof - oops, lawsuit because there wasn't a label on the costume warning against such idiocy. No warning on a McDonalds coffee cup and you get burned? Awesome, find a Jewish lawyer and you have a few million coming your way! Familiy member died in the ER because the doctor tried to save your loved one the best he could with a risky procedure (even though your loved one would die anyway)? Malpractice! Start a lawsuit and get some $$$! Meanwhile, none of this is free - we all pay for it, either by higher insurance rates or paranoid companies with stupid rules (like don't help anyone outside the ropes).

  MMM
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  MeanMrMustard

  @Beks: Thank you for agreeing with me. Nice to talk to you.

  MMM
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  talesin

  MMM -- I didn't read the comments before I posted , and was responding to the OP, but your comments are noted.

  re this:
  
  
  find a Jewish lawyer
  
  
  REALLY? Does s/he HAVE to be Jewish?

  tut, tut!

  and this,

  Meanwhile, none of this is free - we all pay for it, either by higher insurance rates or paranoid companies with stupid rules (like don't help anyone outside the ropes)

  Yeah, okay,, let's let our humanity be determined by RULES .............. NOT!!!

  never, not in a million years ... and YOUR comments provide the perfect argument for 'why I am an anarchist'.

  L ,,, O ,,,, ***'n ,,,, L

  tal
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  talesin

  Oh, and this is ME, sharpening my claws on YOU ...... let's GO!

  

  tal
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  talesin

  Beks, when did you decide you are against insurance mandates?

  Jeff, I believe this comment was purely argument -- really? would you want the lifeguard to think about liability? I think not. You are MUCH better than this, and make some really good arguments for conservatism. This is not one of them.

  xo

  tal
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  JeffT

  Beks and Talesin, since you don't seem to think I need to take care of it myself I'm going to cancel my insurance and forward all the bills to you.

  And that is EXACTLY what the Tennessee fire issue is about. There is no rural fire department, the nearest town had a program that said if you paid an annual fee (I assume eaqual to the tax burden in the town) you'd be covered, if you don't pay the fee you're not covered. It's voluntary because they don't have the power to tax outside the town limits. What you want to do is make the people who pay for the coverage pay for the people who don't, which is what we have right now in healthcare. Although the analogy breaks down because we also have laws right now that say the docs and the hospitals have to treat you. I'm sure the people who live in Fulton township would love to be told they have to provide coverage to people that don't have to pay for it.

  I'm not sure what is going on with the lifeguard case. As I said, from what I've seen so far they didn't write a very good policy/procedure. On the face of it it seem wrong to fire the guy for trying to follow a badly written rule. Maybe they should make it an infraction of some sort to swim outside the designated area, they something could be done before somebody drowns there.
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  JeffT

  Just looked over the last few posts. Just for the record, my lawyer is Jewish, he's a deadringer for the DA on Law and Order, in fact he used to be a DA. I think he now regrets not becoming a rabbi instead, he keeps quoting the torah at me.