"New" light Vs. "Old"light

by apostate man 16 Replies latest jw friends

  • D8TA
    D8TA

    http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/forum/thread.asp?id=22745&site=3

    A anology I use to get my foot in the door of a closed mind, when it comes to the "New Light" argument.

    D8TA

    ~ A day no season would claim ~

  • Xander
    Xander

    Holy moley, JT, that's the most comprehensive list I've seen to date.

    Please sir, can I have some more?

    A fanatic is one who, upon losing sight of his goals, redoubles his efforts.
    --George Santayana
  • apostate man
    apostate man

    Awesome responses! Thanks JT for the list of examples.

    Beck, thanks for the examples.

    But, isn't new light supposed to come from God and not man? I would like to hear from a JW what the official definition of this is supposed to be. Does WT have any "new light" articles? Do they say where this "new light" comes from? Thats what cracks me up, like I said before, Gods word is the same now as it was in 1875, as it was in 1611, as it has always been, so why all the new revelations? I know why, that's obvious, but what is their answer?

  • apostate man
    apostate man

    The scripture itself I question. Proverbs 4:18 in the KJ reads as follows:

    But the path of the just is as the shining light, that shineth more and more unto the perfect day.

    The "path of the just" is as the shining light, it doesn't say "the knowledge of the chosen", or the "understanding of the word". The "just" or "righteous ones"(NWT) are people and the "path" is the way we live our lives according to God.

    The light shining more and more means that WE are the light, and should let our light shine(more and more) until the perfect day.

    Anyone ever hear of the Sunday School song, "this little light of mine, I'm gonna let it shine, this little light of mine , I'm gonna let it shine, this little light of mine, I'm gonna let it shine, let it shine , let it shine, let it shine" ?

  • Adonai438
    Adonai438

    Whats the next line to that Sunday school song?
    Won't let Satan blow it out
    Won't let Satan blow it out
    Won't let Satan blow it out
    I'm gonna let it shine!

  • Adonai438
    Adonai438

    Sorry, I happen to be a sunday school teacher and now the song is stuck, thanks!

    Anyway,
    I believe that our understanding will grow the more we study the Bible and mature in God but the light doesn't change. Whats truth is truth, the end.

    The problem with the WT is it's their way or no way. It doesn't matter if they are right or wrong because they are God's only channel of truth to this world. Yeah, OK. They won't take scriptural correction, the disfellowshipped over old light issues are still disfellowshipped for disobediance, THEY have to be listened too no matter what they say.

    I think if God were really using them as his 'channel of truth' he would know what that truth was and not reveal changes. Their doctrine does not originate from God. Maybe its from prideful men, maybe the devil; whatever; but God does not change so it's best we take our salvation into our own hands and study God's Word. I'm not saying we aren't allowed to make a mistake occassionally but their entire belief system is incorrect and thats not a old light/ new light issue

    A light may grow 'brighter', so-to-speak, but it doesn't change from say a light bulb, to a candle, to a flash light, to a camp fire & so on..............

    OK, Done.
    <>< Angie

  • apostate man
    apostate man

    Whats the next line to that Sunday school song?
    Won't let Satan blow it out, NO! I'm gonna let it shine
    Won't let Satan blow it out, NO! I'm gonna let it shine
    Won't let Satan blow it out, NO! I'm gonna let it shine
    Let it shine, let it shine, let it shine.
    italics added by apostate man

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