Jehovah's Witnesses...loyal to God...or to the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society ?

by Balaamsass 12 Replies latest watchtower child-abuse

  • Balaamsass
    Balaamsass

    This month is a month of testing for Jehovah's Witnesses. Individually, each must ask himself: to whom are you loyal? No doubt in ancient Isreal many attended the Molech and Calf worshiping festivals out of loyalty to the nation, the King, and perhaps in a mistaken belief to "Jehovah". The most "loyal" bent to cult pressure and offered up children for burnt offerings. Imagine yourself back in ancient times..who would you be loyal to? The King (The visible earthly organization?).

    Are you going to be "loyal" and OBEY the Watchtower Society and offer up your Children, Grandchildren, neices and nephews to the MOLECH of pedophilia, lack of medical attention (Blood), and ignorance (lack of education)?.. Is THAT what a loving God requires ? Is THAT what Jesus preached?

    An interesting article by a "Worldy newspaper writer" in the Washington Post:

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    Posted at 06:06 PM ET, 07/24/2012 TheWashingtonPost

    Monsignor Lynn’s jail time helps strip away shield of loyalty

    By Anthony M. Stevens-Arroyo


    Catholic Monsignor William Lynn returns after a lunch break to Philadelphia Criminal Justice Center March 26, 2012 in Philadelphia during his trial on covering up pedophile abuses. Monsignor Lynn, who oversaw the assignment of priests to schools and parishes across the Philadelphia region, faces accusations that he failed to keep priests accused of sexual abuse away from minors. Co-defendant Reverend James Brennan is accused of sexually abusing boys in the 1990's. (STAN HONDA - AFP/GETTY IMAGES) Six years in prison for Monsignor William Lynn, former clergy secretary in the Archdiocese of Philadelphia because of his complicity in sexual abuse of minors; $60 million in fines to Penn State and its football program for similar indifference towards a coach. These despicable events are linked by a defect in American society. There is little public conscience to protect those speaking truth to power.

    Particularly sad is how these recent events distort what should be an uplifting faith in an institution. Does not Penn State make of its football a weekly religion, replete with dedicated blue-and-white, competing ritually in an arena for honor? Does not Catholic America consider the bishop’s office the watchtower of a living faith? We all regret the sins and sympathize with the victims, but unless we recognize the climate that has fostered wrongdoing and change, these events will be repeated.

    The failure to be feared the most lies with the university favoring football wins over integrity and with the clericalism that prefers loyalty over virtue. In short, there is a moral void in American society that does not reward whistle blowing against the interests of an institution.

    I think the case of Philadelphia’s Monsignor Lynn is the more tragic because it is clearly religious. Similar cover-ups of abuses occur in other institutions, but because more is expected from the Catholic Church, the betrayal is worse. The court sentenced the priest to three to six years in prison, which is not the maximum sought by the prosecution, but far more than the simple house arrest or work release proposed by the monsignor’s attorneys.Consider what that will mean for the 60-year-old cleric: denied the protection of his clerical garb, tossed into the general prison population, unprepared to rely on violence to protect himself from further violence from street criminals – we have all seen TV and film representation of the terrors behind prison walls. Is this too harsh for a mild-mannered priest who was only following the orders of his bishop? Is this sentence a reflection of an anti-Catholic bias against we who believe that a bishop is chosen by God to lead the church? Was it not his job as clergy secretary to keep secret the sinful behavior of wayward priests so as to serve the greater good of preserving the good name of Catholicism?

    I would argue in rebuttal, that precisely because the courts are required to “serve the greater good” and because the church needs to preserve “the good name of Catholicism,” the penalty is not harsh enough. Three to six years makes the message clear. Without fearsome consequences to those working directly for power-conscious prelates, ecclesiastical ambition and blind loyalty to one’s superiors will interfere with justice. There will always be the temptation to obey men rather than God when one’s career will suffer more from doing the right thing than from standing up for justice. This is true for coaches, university administrators and sadly also for chancery officials. In Catholic America, we can be thankful for the members of SNAP for standing courageously against cardinals, archbishops and their minions. Truth was spoken to power, generally at the cost of personal vilification and church orchestrated legal attacks .

    While I have sympathy for Monsignor Lynn who will face punishments that will likely test his soul, I also remember that his actions-- or lack thereof -- tortured the souls of innocent children. Eerily, like the Penn State case where coach Joe Paterno (d. January 22, 2012) had passed away before his role was fully disclosed, in Philadelphia, Cardinal Anthony Joseph Bevilacqua (d. January 31, 2012) had also passed away before the sentencing. Meanwhile, Cardinal Bernard Francis Law of Boston where this tale began to unravel is ensconced in Rome, safe from U.S. legal prosecution.

    The jail time that Monsignor Lynn will serve helps strip away the shield of loyalty upon which some unfeeling bishops had depended to avoid culpability for questionable actions. Ultimately, I see benefits to the church in general and bishops in particular to have leadership that is transparent in decision-making and evangelical in inspiration."

    View Photo Gallery: With nearly one in four Americans in its fold, a powerful lobby and extensive charity work, the Catholic Church is one of the most influential institutions in America.

    By Anthony M. Stevens-Arroyo | 06:06 PM ET, 07/24/2012

  • blondie
    blondie

    WTS = God's representative on earth = God

    *** w11 7/15 pp. 16-17 par. 8 Will You Heed Jehovah’s Clear Warnings? ***No matter what false teachers may say, we will not follow them! Why go to such dried-up wells only to be deceived and disappointed? Instead, let us be determined to remain loyal to Jehovah and to the organization that has a long record of quenching our thirst with the pure and refreshing waters of truth from God’s inspired Word.—Isa. 55:1-3; Matt. 24:45-47.

    *** w10 4/15 p. 10 par. 12 Holy Spirit’s Role in the Outworking of Jehovah’s Purpose ***By being obedient and loyal to the direction received from the earthly part of God’s organization, you show that you are keeping pace with Jehovah’s celestial chariot and are working in harmony with his holy spirit.—Heb. 13:17.

    *** w07 12/1 p. 11 par. 6 Highlights From the Books of Haggai and Zechariah ***Our loyalty to the true God and his organization should surpass loyalty to any human, no matter how close.

    The WTS teaches that you must obey the FDS particularly the GB, disobeying is the same as disobeying God. Obey even if they are wrong.

  • LV101
    LV101

    From what I've heard they think their leaders are right about education (the world is so evil and mankind needs spiritual education not secular) and blood. As far as the pedophile horror they think it's worse in other religions. Hopefully, they're being enlightened this month w/reality. The brainwashing about blood would take some real undoing.

  • yadda yadda 2
    yadda yadda 2

    You've probably presented a false dichotomy. I doubt its a case of totally either one or the other. I believe if the GB and the organisation disappeared tomorrow there would still be many Jehovah's Witnesses remaining who would still follow the Bible and be loyal to God regardless.

    But I think Blondie has hit on it. Many JW's, perhaps even a majority, believe they are loyal to God directly when in fact they are only doing so vicariously through loyalty to the organisation. Obedience to God and the organisation are concomitant, go hand-in-hand. Ray Franz wrote a lot about this.

  • LV101
    LV101

    Hope you are right about division among the witnesses and that the "conscious class" inside halls will have a great impact on the others. Just going on what I hear (on the outside) along w/some witnesses' attitude toward those who received higher education in the past. It's not good and a lot of envy but that goes on no matter.

    They focus on what spews out of their leaders' mouths but surely there's those who are diligently striving to serve God over their ruling despots and that's admirable.

    I've tried to discuss blood issue w/a couple of highly educated witnesses and realized the brainwashing runs deep in their heads so best to drop the matter at that time. Difficult to discuss anything for the most part when they're satisfied w/their religion.

  • Ding
    Ding

    Most JWs see no distinction.

    For them, loyalty to the organization is identical to loyalty to God because they believe Jehovah works through the organization as his channel.

  • james_woods
    james_woods

    The Watchtower bombards them with literature and magazines at least 3 times a week.

    God himself has never said a single word to a single one of them.

  • BluesBrother
    BluesBrother

    I think this song of theirs sums it up....Basically they cannot tell the difference between the two :

    "Song 63 :Ever Loyal

    1. Ever loyal to Jehovah,

    Loyal love we wish to show.

    As a people, dedicated,

    His commands we want to know.

    His advice will never fail us,

    And his counsel we obey.

    He is loyal; we can trust him.

    From his side we’ll never stray.

    2. Ever loyal to our brothers,

    Sticking close in times of need.

    Ever caring, always trusting,

    Ever kind in word and deed.

    We show honor to our brothers

    And respect them from the heart.

    Let the Bible draw us closer;

    From their side we’ll never part.

    3. Ever loyal to their guidance

    When our brothers take the lead.

    When they give us clear direction,

    May our mind and heart give heed.

    Then the blessing from Jehovah

    Will be ours to make us strong.

    When we’re loyal, ever faithful,

    To Jehovah we’ll belong."

  • was a new boy
    was a new boy

    substitute Circuit Overseers trump Bethelites in being most loyal and faithful

    18:33 scanning CSA documents

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PMrzLMi1tqE

  • Foolednomore
    Foolednomore

    Jw's are so stupid, if Geehovah (God's Organization) told them to open their wallets, they do it. If they where told to take a Blue pill they would line up. These would be the Super Righteous Jw's.

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