How Big is Your Hard Drive?

by teenyuck 34 Replies latest jw friends

  • seven006
    seven006

    Alan F is crazy, any PC isn't worth squat! Get a Mac!

    I have a Mac G4 with duel 1 gig processors, 80 gig hard drive, 1.24 gigs of ram, DVD and CD burners, four barrel carb with hooker headers sitting on a board out 327, Krager Mags, Gabriel hijackers and Hurst linkage. Mickey Thompson sixty series raise white letter tires, Thrush glass packs and a screaming 8 trac......wait, I was talking about my car in high school. I get those things mixed up all the time.

    What have happened to real machines? Guys care about how much power they have backing up their typing box then they do cars now. The whole country has turned into a bunch of whips! Ever since the mid 80's all us guys had to learn to be sensitive and give up our real toys. I'm a little upset now, I think I feel a tear welling up. Where are my tissues in the floral design box that smell like fresh daisies?

    It's just so...sniff..sniff ...confusing being a guy these days.

    Dave

  • teenyuck
    teenyuck

    LOL seven006!

    My mother actually bought an Apple computer in about 1980...I was in college and had to program BASIC! I recall not having a clue what to do with it after that...I had a typewriter!

    It was hooked up to a 13" TV and we did not have a clue what to do with it...my JW uncle worked for NEC and we got it at cost so my mother thought it was a great deal...it sat in her attic for years...she told me last year she threw it out!

    I really have not looked at Apple...do all the programs interface with typical ones you can download and stuff? I know everyone raves about them, however, they still are not selling anywhere close to MS operating systems...why?

  • TR
    TR

    Don't worry, Dave!

    My favorite toys still have internal combustion engines- ones that actually burn fossil fuels!

    TR

    I hold it to be the inalienable right of anybody to go to hell in his own way.
    --Robert Frost, 1935

  • seven006
    seven006

    Puff,

    The only reason that MS out sells Apple is because they are in bed with the UN and the JW's. It's all lies! Mac's have the best graphics and the best games. All that business type software I have no clue about. You can also get some awesome joy sticks to go with it.

    Being serious for a second........You can get MS office and all that other business crap software for a Mac. Macs don't particular like it cuz its like putting a golf cart engine in a Ferrari but I guess Mac users have to type letters once in a while. The new OS 10 operating system is Unix based and is both compatible with PC's and networkable. Being networked with a PC does drain the intelligence out of a Mac but they are so smart they quickly grow their brain cells back.

    Check one out at the local Mac retailer near you and open your mind to possibilities.

    Bill Gates is a Nazi JW who wants to take over the world!

    Dave

  • Nathan Natas
    Nathan Natas

    Just to throw in my two cents . . . I agree with Amazing about COMPAQ - avoid them. In addition to the problems Amazing mentions, COMPAQ'a customer service is VERY POOR. When my Presaario 's hard drive failed a few months ago (only 3 years old) I bought a new larger hard drive and set about "restoring" the system from the CDs COMPAQ provides (which by the way DO NOT offer a complete copy of whatever version of Windows you've got). I had problems with the "quick restore" and used their email support guys in Bangladesh (I'm not kidding, they're somewhere on the other side of the planet). They were competent but only following their "script," and when they couldn't offer a way to solve the problem (after trying many, many things) they suggested that I should bring it in to an "authorized shop" and spend some hard ca$h. I figured that before I would do that I would call their telephone support number in the USA for and pay $40 for that priviledge. So they take the credit card info, charge me, and then connect me to the "support" dude. I explain that I put a new larger hard drive in the system, AND HE BEGINS CHEWING MY ASS!!
    "Why'd you do that? That's not supported!" he tells me. I ask to speak to his manager - he ignores me. I ask his name. He tells me. I tell him again, "XXX, I want to speak to your manager." He ignores me. I say again, "XXX, I want to speak to your manager." He puts me on hold for 15 or 20 minutes, comes back on and says his manager is busy but said that he was right - it isn't supported. I hang up. I contact my credit card company and instruct them to reverse the charge and I tell them why. They do. I spend a couple of weeks running various diagnostic programs as I whittle the problem down, and I finally solve it by myself. One of the programs automatically loaded from their "quick restore" CD would not co-exist with the larger drive. So it is OUTA THERE, and the system works.

    I WILL NEVER BUY ANOTHER COMPAQ PRODUCT!

    That's my story, and I'm sticking to it.

  • seven006
    seven006

    TR,
    I always knew you were one of the manly men on this board. After all, to make up for having a goofy little lap dog you have two real dogs to balance out your sensitivity. Dogs are supposed to fight and tear things up, not set around on peoples laps and dream of being a cat.

    Dave

  • Abaddon
    Abaddon

    AMD's are cheaper, so you have good advice there, but in the unlikely event the heatsink falls off, they fry, whereas P4's throttle down and survive... a PIII would be okay too, if you can get one cheap, but avoid Celeron's. I'd go for the P4, but see if you can go for a 2GHz version with 478 pins; this might be greek, but it means that you might be able to upgrade your PC just with a new processor (say a P4 3GHz at Christmas 2003) at some point. If you get a P4 with 438 pins, then you will not be able to do that, as the 438 pin socket is effectively history. I might have the exact number of pins wrong, but there are two P4 sockets, and the lower numbers of pins should be avoided. Also, there are now P4 motherboards that support DDR-RAM; you were asking about bus speed; Intel is faster in this area, for the processors you're looking at.

    Check the Graphics card; it should be AGPx4, 32MB, maybe 16MB at a pinch. Don't go for inbuilt graphics. For sound, well, many systems have inbuilt sound (i.e. on motherboard), but a soundcard gives you more scope for expansion and upgrading; almost any PC can take these in their PCI slots, and if they happen to have inbuilt sound, you can disable this when you fit a PCI card so you get the better sound.

    Get a DVD as well as a CDRW; it makes copying disks easy (the DVD will run any CD disk), and if you get a videocard with a video out, then you have a DVD player you can hook up to your TV, for free.

    The speeds of CDRW refer to their ReWritable Speed, their Write(only) speed, and their Read speed. ReWritable (CD-RW) means you can use it again and again, whereas Write(only) (CD-R) is one shot. WHatever the speed, get one with 'Burnproof' technology or similar (there's several names for the same thing), as it will stop you wasting time burning a disc only to find the disk was spoilt.

    A PC of the spec you're getting could handle most things; a second disk drive is good, for back-up, but 80GB is wonderfull, and you'd be hard pushed to find anything new much under 40GB HDD.

    Englishman has found the secret of sanity with Window9x/ME; slap the OS in a small (max 2GB) partition or a seperate disk; if it gets cranky (and it does), you just reinstall the OS without effecting your data files. Reinstalling your current system would help; unless you're going to do video editing or CADCAM or major Photoshoping or lots of gaming, a PII is fine. However, computer prices are insanely low, and it's a good idea to buy now, as what you're talking about getting would still be pretty fresh in two-three years, which is the best you can expect really.

    Macs are nice too, and very pretty; the new iMac is a sweetie!

    People living in glass paradigms shouldn't throw stones...

  • julien
    julien

    I just rebuilt my system and named it bohweemoth.

    1 ghz athlon
    512 meg ram
    cd (20x write) and dvd burners
    60 gig raid-1 mirror
    160 gig drive
    120 gig drive

    I need all that space (its cheap now anyway) for doing animations/VCD/DVD and playing with things like VMWARE , games, etc

  • julien
    julien
    Englishman has found the secret of sanity with Window9x/ME; slap the OS in a small (max 2GB) partition or a seperate disk; if it gets cranky (and it does), you just reinstall the OS without effecting your data files.

    In fact once you have the system set up like that you can make a 'ghost' image of the boot drive (onto another HD, or a DVD-R) and recreate it from the snapshot anytime painlessly. That way you don't have to go thru all the Windows Update downloads and reboots. There are numerous ghosting programs out there (DiskImage is one I think, and Norton has one I can't recall the name of)..

  • gravedancer
    gravedancer

    After some prior stuff I try and avoid stuff about computer talk here.

    my quick 2 cents:
    - avoid compaq and hp
    - go for the best support there is. Buy a dell. I have switched every machine I own (yes I own a lot of them) to Dell. There is a reason for it - I am tired of fixing broken or faulty machines with unknown or propietary parts (I know the inside of a computer like the back of my hand but its so old to worry about hardware issues).

    The AMD/Intel debate is pointless from noticing real speed differences as a user. My opinion: go with the leader....support.

    What you want is support....support ....reliability...reliability

    The gadget talk is distracting. You can get fancy stuff. But when its broke or incompatible down the line...make sure the people recommending all the gadgets are available to fix it.

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