by justmom 62 Replies latest jw friends
cofty said:
Who would you prefer fixing you up at the hospital, when needing a new pacemaker....
A good doctor.
His belief or unbelief in the superntural is no more relevent than which football team he supports -
Although, it's good if the doctor respects the religious beliefs of the patient:
Mouthy, You gave a wonderful answer to those who lack empathy for those grieving genuine loss. You have suffered more loss than anyone I know. You could have let it kill you or harden you into bitterness and hate. You didn't, and I applaud- ((((((MOUTHY))))))
I am too new in my exit of the WT$ to have decided definately about God, no God, or Agnostic. For now, I have decided not to rush- to decide not to decide. IMHO, what many have not learned since leaving the WT$ is humility, empathy, and common courtesy.
Never get involved with people that lack scruples. They don’t usually advertise it, so sometimes is too late when you realize it.
Another thing many have not learned since leaving the WT is that actions speak louder than words.
Apostatethunder, Agreed
Wow, I thought I would see Justmom offer a drowning man a hand. Instead he/she clubbed everyone on this board with a mallet! Would hate to be your dog.
I do not think Justmom is an Ex-JW. Either current one or never was. I do not believe a real X-JW could lack that much empathy even if I agreed with the spirit (definately not the logic or theological argument) of the original post.
Don't feed the troll.
3rdgenThanks very much
Cofty
"A good doctor.
His belief or unbelief in the superntural is no more relevent than which football team he supports - actually come to think about it that's quite important"
Yupp, agree. But would you think a good doctor has some good, positive energy and attitudes?
Case solved!
King Solomon!
Your cartoon made me laugh.
Besides humor makes good working conditions for the doctors
LOL. Just Mom is funny. So proud of proclaiming judgements and assumptions that grow from deep ignorance.
LOL. Others are funny for thinking it is brave to be open about such ignorance.
First. I have seen very little bitterness, from those who still believe, toward their god or christ.
Second. I don't know one atheist here who is angry or bitter toward any gods. That would just be silly, because they don't believe in them. Who gets angry at someone who they don't believe is there?
Third: How do I handle loss? Well for one thing, I do NOT go to Just Mom or anyone else that is incapable of displaying a bit of empathy. That's important.
Beyond that, I have learned that acceptence is a huge key. Generally it is when I'm in denial, angry, resisting, screaming it's not fair that I have the most angst. I have a mantra: It is what it is. And while this does not take away all pain, it does bring me comfort. It is what it is, and now I must adjust my life around it. I had a neighbor that strongly felt that using the word should was counterproductive. She called it shouldy thinking. And she had a great point that I thought of often. That's not to say we can't work to change things when possible, but sitting around moaning how things should be when that is not possible, saps a lot of our strength and energy and prevents us from moving forward and dealing with the circumstances. But we all need our moments of should and outrage at what is. Then when we are ready, we can move on to It Is What It Is.
I remember saying this after my car was totaled. I didn't want to waste my limited energy on thinking how it shouldn't have happened, because it did happen, and I could not change that, so the quicker I moved forward, the quicker it would be dealt with. But it does not always happen so fast for me, but it is always the goal. Sometimes it takes time, but at least it is the ultimate goal.
I am not a fan of AA, and I'm certainly not a practiioner of prayer, however I find the principals behind their serenity prayer to be quite helpful.
The serenity to accept the things I cannot change, the courage to change the things I can, and the wisdom to know the difference. I don't need to pray for this, I just need to set these things as goals. It is what it is
NC
NC, welcome to 2,500 years ago. The teachings of the Buddah are very similar to what you portray on your post #11511. What you have experienced is described by many as a "Rebirth." The story of Jesus and Nicodemus portrays an ignorant religious leader of the day being stumped by Jesus usage of the concept "born again." As you likely remember the religious leader thought about the concept with a strict rational approach and concluded that it would be impossible to pass through a physical womb twice in one life. Jesus was speaking about an ancient concept that has been around since the beginning of human existence. As "dust" when we are born into the world we are only able to look upon it in a certain predetermined way. Throughout the growth process of our sentient lives we begin to see the world through a lense that has been formed by our own experiences and choices. Eventually, we get to a point in our lives when we don't want to be governed by mere predetermined variables and this is the moment when we become born again.
Atheism proves that the born again process works on people from any possible walk of life, even unbelief. It is simply a human growth process and was discovered eons ago. However all of this doesn't mean there isn't a God, it just means that if God exists, he is not partial to anyone. Which is what Jesus said. The descriptions as to how the universe interacts with our species on a broad scale will always be up for interpretation. We have a wild ride ahead of us and like Outlaw says, their are two distinct groups. These two groups have the ability to coexist.
It is what it is
This is a very powerful life outlook. Just know that anyone can play a vital role in what makes this world what it is. For many they need to feel the calling of God and for others they seem to be content with finding out their own calling. That's what makes life so beautiful. It is what it is.
Even the smallest person can change the course of the future. - LOtR
-Sab
