Has anyone heard of "Secret Disfellowshipping" by Jehovah's Witnesses? Menlo Park Ca. Congregation. Update.

by Balaamsass 65 Replies latest watchtower scandals

  • no-zombie
    no-zombie

    I think that there is two things missing in this thread ...

    Firstly, who is the one that benefits from secrete disfellowshiping? The Organization of course. This is because, either the reason why the person is disfellowshiped is dubious ... or the whole case is too embarrassing for them to handle. Thus, played right, secrete disfellowshiping actually works against the Society in the end more than being publicly disfellowshiped, because as when the facts filter out (which they will in time), the story lingers and its smell, last far longer.

    But secondly, religions, football clubs and art societies have the right as private institutions, to make up their own rules, as they go along ... and there is nothing ultimately that its members can do about it. So if the Organization somehow legally acquires Kingdom Halls, and then sell them off, well that it. Its just like your Bingo club. Every Thursday night for that past 40 years you've been going, and then someone one the committee wants to change it to Friday night. If they have the voting rights, then its passed and its done. There is no point bitching about it, either we can put up with the change ... or find a new club.

  • Bill Covert
    Bill Covert

    The doer of that deed would of been Merton Campbell, he was the northern Cailf. Service Desk.

    Randall Waters had a post on this site on Merton Campbell. it centered on the Red Bluff Calif. sodomize r Henderson, who it took 5 trips across Campbell's desk before he was permanently removed. There was a lady Ft Worth Tx. attorney who was in local paper [forget he name] that got the court win. I talked with her about another molestation case. Evidently that post got removed from this site.

    There was a swindler that came to Redding Ca. in the mid 1980's, a Ray Dale [he had a 20+ year career defrauding widows and seniors, made possible by church policy that prevented brothers from taking brothers to court on the pain of disfellowshipping and loss of family thru shunning. The pinnacle of Dale's swindles was a $4,250,000 unregistered securities fraud that was taken to Civil Court by Calif. Dept. of Corroborations in 1990 court case #109555. Also involved was a JW Patent Attorney L. Schappert. Campbell was so incompetent that he assigned Ray Dale to investigate Ray Dale! Had he taken the investigation out of the congregation that the fraud was centered in and had assembled a committee outside elders than there would of been a chance that the Service Desk would of seen that Redding area was in need of some professional help in dealing with a REAL criminal!

    When the the Shasta County DA"S office, the SEC and the Calif. Dept. of Corporations were investigating Ray Dale the South Redding elders refused on 3 occasions refused to forward letters of criminal investigations to Merton Campbell allowing him to rectify his mistake. Reason being they were terrified of being bitten by a "wolf" Acts 20:28-30! Evidently Campbell did not like me calling him "a servant on a horse" Eccl.10: 7 after that big of a fuck up. After that I was on Campbell's ass like a dirty diaper.

    In 2013 when the revised RNWT was released with the Lev.5:1 revision Barbara Anderson was interested in taking on the project as the "new light" of that revision was cloaked in silence. The essay "Flawed Decrees Conceal Criminals" was the finished product. In the phone conversation when the Red Bluff sodomizer Henderson came up Barbara asked me if per chance I was the man in northern Calif. who wrote the most offensive letters to Bethel of anyone in the USA [she had a Bethel friend who entered all letters of hate into a data base] I said that was "a bingo". But Barbara is not going to back up anything I say as that would reveal someone other than herself owner the intellectual property understanding the deception of Lev.5:1 in the 1987 Wt. article "A Time to Speak When?" that was a highly thought deception to create a "hunting license" to ferret out apostates in the year 1987.

    Merton Campbell scripted out my disfellowshippment. Not only that he instructed the Appeals Committee presiding elder to conceal court case #149893 where the swindler was defrauding another widow out of $100,000 court case #149893. That case ended in March 2004, my wife left in May 2004. Had that Bastard Campbell been anywhere competent I would still have a family today! [Again my apology of making a fool of myself a month ago, evidently I got wrong information you were in Redding area and Joe Moore the presiding elder who concealed court case #149893 also too was a long time Bethelite during your era and his wife is 3rd generation}.

    In 2007 I hired a privet investigator who uncovered court case #149893. I taped it to the church doors [just like Martin Luther] on 12-26-2007. And on 12-31-2007 the elder who refused to forward three letters of criminal investigation to Merton Campbell had a heart attack. The last thing he ever saw the was the face of my #5 son who was on the fire truck and put the oxygen mask on him and did CPR. Turns out that elder tried to get my son to suck his penis when he was a kid. I am the Apostate refereed to in the 2013 assembly talk "Human Apostates" who wrote letters to publishers homes, with the motive of attacking the consciences of cowards who were terrified of Ray Dales "wolf pack" Acts 20:28-30.

    To make it a small world my cousin screwed that Bay Area elder you refereed to out of about $20,000.

  • DesirousOfChange
  • Balaamsass2
    Balaamsass2

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    Bill Covert
    Bill Covert12 hours ago

    The doer of that deed would of been Merton Campbell, he was the northern Cailf. Service Desk. "

    Bill, Merton Cambell (pompous ass), and his wife(a nice lady), both had grey hair in the 1970s when I was at Bethel, so he would be ancient (or dead) after 2000. :)

  • Bill Covert
    Bill Covert

    Wow I got fed some wrong info.THANKS!

  • road to nowhere
    road to nowhere

    Nozombie. A lot of kingdom halls were and are acquired by deceptive means. Congregation resolutions are a joke.

  • Balaamsass2
    Balaamsass2

    I have been trying to follow up on the Menlo Park situation. If anyone has updates please fill us in.

    The sincere and simple original Menlo Park Elders who mistakingly thought the KH Hall land grab was by some unscrupulous local elders with shady pasts, were gobsmacked to learn orders came straight from NEW YORK Bethel....too late...to avoid their "secret disfellowshipping".

    The results? Heartbreak, poverty, and divorce. Ex-Elder Cobb's wife was counseled to leave her "Apostate" husband by local Elders. I can not locate him online. :(

    Ex-Elder Arlen St Clair's son borrowed his car, only to be closely tailed by an Employee of a local "Elder" (Security director), which turned into a high-speed chase, his being forced off the road, and an injury accident. St Clair's son was hospitalized for days for his injuries. The son was quite shaken and moved from the area.

    Ex-Elder, St Clair, alone and broken in his 70s, fell from a roof while washing windows a few years ago. A sad end to a kind and gentle man

  • Bill Covert
    Bill Covert

    I read just a bit of the court proceedings. The attorney for the church stated that "the JW Church was a hierarchical church just like the Catholics". Thus had ownership of church buildings. It was a long time ago I read that so could be off some.

    I doubt there is not anyone on this site that has paid a heavy-er price than myself because the secret instructions to with hold the court case #14983 of a career criminal defrauding another widow which concluded two months before the wife was pressured to leave marriage. 19 years x #36,000 a year alimony +$68,400, 5 sons, 10 grandchildren. Got taken to court by church directions last July, to sell community property house because I missed some alimony payments. It was at the church direction because I got phone calls from US Postal Investigator and local PD about my letters in the mail to publishers homes. Once the investigators heard about the church "shunning policy" they understood I wasn't going to bomb the KH. Got turned in to postal inspector many years ago because a wanaby elder said I was planning to bomb the KH.

    There is not a clearer description of the GB than what Jesus said Matt. 24: 48-51!

  • Diogenesister
    Diogenesister

    Bill I'm so sorry. I cannot believe how much blood watchtower has on their hands.

    The story of the original Menlo park elders is tragic. So is this place in Silicon valley?? Explains a lot, if so.

  • Bill Covert
    Bill Covert

    You are absolutely right, the vast amount of purely evilness was unimaginable prior to 1984. There was a certain amount of traveling men who had the ability to root out wickedness with in a congregation by monitoring the spirit with in the congregation. Since the change in about 1984 with the introduction of the "obedience to the organization two catch phrases; "obey" the direction of GB and "god will handle it" has completely gutted a judicial system that some what worked prior to 1975.

    1975 was a big thing!

    Get this though. One week before I had to appear in court there was a article in the paper that the local Indian casino owning native American tribe went into partnership with a Texas energy company to build a hydrogen fuel manufacturing plant in Red Bluff Ca.. Being in the truck repairing for 53 years, where I live next to a freeway inter change on a dead end rd. and the local tribe notoriety of speaking with a forked tongue I realized I was going to have a state of the art truck stop and travel center dealing in alternate fuels on my fence line. There was a field across the road that I bought so now I have freeway access cut off from the 40+ acre field the Indians own.

    The real irony is the exact same scenario happened two years ago when the USA largest land owner Red Emmerson had the tribes future casino cut off from freeway. So probably in about 5 years when the tribe needs to purchase right of way I might come not to bad of shape.

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