by badboy 40 Replies latest watchtower bible
There's a very good question to stump a JW(hope I have spelled the place right?!)
It says in my NIV study Bible it toke place c.609 BC so therefore the Fall Of Jerusalem toke place approxiametly(sic)20 years later according to the Bible.
If you say Carchemish toke place in 627,`can you provide evidence of this?' might be a good question to a JW.
20 years later on from 609BC would be 589BC. 20 years on from 607BC would be 587BC - the generally accepted time for the fall of Jerusalem.
Actually the battle of Carchemish took place in 605 B.C., and shortly after that Nebuchadnezzar ascended the throne of Babylon. Perhaps you're thinking of the last skirmishes between Babylon and the remnants of the Assyrian empire, which took place in 609 and certainly finished off Assyria as a regional power.
JWs of course can provide no evidence outside their own literature about the dates of events around that time. But, being JWs, they don't need anything else. They don't normally get stumped by such problems because they dismiss out of hand everything that disagrees with their literature. After all, it's next to inspired, right? Coming from the divinely-directed Governing Body and all.
AlanF
The battle of Carchemish took place very recently--I believe in the late 1980s. It was an epic battle, with 99 smurfs (the girl was late putting on her makeup, and missed it) doing battle against the wicked forces of Azreal and.... oh, wait, never mind, I'm thinking of the battle of Gargamel.
Hmmm
badboy
The battle at Carchemish took place in 625 BCE whereupon Nebuchadnezzar defeated Pharaoh Necho at that place. This event occurred during the fourth year of King Jehoiakim's reign of Judah. Jeremiah 46:2. The following Nisan began Nebuchadnezzar's first regnal year as King of Babylon.
scholar BA MA Studies in Religion
The battle at Carchemish took place in 625 BCE whereupon Nebuchadnezzar defeated Pharaoh Necho at that place.
Oups, Alan a little work for you ;-)
Bye
Charles
Sorry AlanF,
It is to bad that Scholar don't agree with you. Hell I don't with you either.
Hey, Chasson, this "scholar" is a typically cowardly JW. I've challenged him several times before on chronology stuff, with plenty of Biblical references, and he always fails to respond.
Fridolin, sweetie, the fact that "scholar" is a fake is obviously lost on you, and so is the fact that I care no more about your disagreement with me than I care that you think JW leaders are divinely directed. You're no more capable of thinking about chronology than you are about why birdies tweet.
AlanF
Hey AlanF,
Your idea on chronolgy does not hold up. You base it on wishful ideas. A matter of fact, you want everyone to agree with you. But, it does not go that way. Epecially when more cunieforms is contrasting VAT 4956
Alan Fraud
Your constant attack on the Society's chronology shows your ignorance and lack of appreciation for the complexity of biblical chronology. I have repeatedly said in previous postings that the Society has provided in it publications over many decades considerable evidence or explanations for its chronology for the OT and the NT. Because you have a diffferent interpretation of such matters does not make your views or opinions anymore acceptable than the Society's view.
There are very few dates in chronology that enjoys unanimity of agreemement amongst scholars. Most dates are subject to a wide range of opinion, nothing is entirely settled. For example, the matter of the seventy years is a cause of considerable difficulty for honest scholars.
My counsel to you is to stick to your engineering, a field in which you you are academically qualifies. Please leave biblical studies and theology to those qualified or go to university and get those qualifications. Perhaps, better still, why dont you attend our meetings at the local Kingdom Hall?
scholar BA MA Studies in Religion
