The Last Supper - very simple

Atreyu

“Jesus took bread, and when he had said the blessing he broke it and gave it to the disciples. ‘Take it and eat it,’ he said, ‘this is my body.’ Then he took a cup, and when he had given thanks he handed it to them saying, ‘Drink from this, all of you, for this is my blood, the blood of the covenant, poured out for many for the forgiveness of sins.” Mt 26:26-28

“Then he took bread, and when he had given thanks, he broke it and gave it to them, saying, ‘This is my body given for you; do this in remembrance of me.’ He did the same with the cup after supper, and said, ‘This cup is the new covenant in my blood poured out for you.” Lu 22:19-20

“… the Lord Jesus took some bread, and after he had given thanks, he broke it, and he said, ‘This is my body which is for you; do this in remembrance of me.’ And in the same way, with the cup after supper, saying, ‘This cup is the new covenant in my blood. Whenever you drink this cup, you are proclaiming the Lord’s death until he comes.” 1 Co 11:24-27

Could it be any clearer?

- When offering the bread and the wine, Jesus referred to
his sacrifice, his ransom, which will redeem our sins.
- Apparently, when accepting the bread and wine, the
receiver accepted Jesus as a personal saviour and
redeemer.
- The New Covenant is about Jesus’ blood poured out for
our sins.
- Jesus ordered the disciples to repeat this supper as a
ceremony of remembrance.
- Jesus did not say that the sacraments were reserved
only for an elite.
- Jesus initiated this ceremony within a tradition
already customary, that everyone shared the Passover
meal.
- Jesus did not talk about a “Covenant of a Kingdom”
in this situation.

In view of this, it would be an abomination to refuse the bread and wine. Then you would demonstrate that you refuse Jesus as your personal saviour and redeemer, that you refuse to believe in the meaning of his sacrifice.

meat pie

Thanks Atreyu, that does help especially the point that the Passover was not just for a special 'class' of people. I will give this some more thought.

You Know

Jesus did not talk about a “Covenant of a Kingdom” in this situation.

Nonsense. The apostles were still at the table when Jesus said "You are the ones that have stuck with me in my trials; just as my Father has made a covenant with me, for a kingdom, that you may eat and drink at my table in my kingdom, and sit on thrones to judge the twelve tribes of Israel." The new covenant makes possible the kingdom covenant. They go together. That proves that the new covenant is for only those who are destined to be kings in Christ's kingdom and not intended for, nor necessary, for mankind in general to inherite everlasting life on earth.

/ You Know

Reborn2002

You DONT Know

blah blah blah..

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We all KNOW if it disagrees in any way with what you believe it is

NONSENSE.

Since your perspective is perfect, why dont you proclaim yourself one of the Anointed? Or go join the Governing Body even? Hell since you know it all you may in fact be the next coming of Christ.

YOUKNOW?

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Reborn:
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kes152

"You are the ones that have stuck with me in my trials; just as my Father has made a covenant with me, for a kingdom, that you may eat and drink at my table in my kingdom, and sit on thrones to judge the TWELVE TRIBES OF ISRAEL."

So the twelve were given a covenant to judge the twelve tribes of Israel (the 144,000).. not to JUDGE the "great crowd" from EVERY nation and tribe... and people, and tongue... etc.

The new covenant makes possible the kingdom covenant. They go together.

So going by your logic.. the Memorial is ONLY for the twelve apostles since the "covenant for a kingdom" was judging the 144,000 sons of Israel.

;-)

Peace to you,
Aaron

You Know

So the twelve were given a covenant to judge the twelve tribes of Israel (the 144,000).. not to JUDGE the "great crowd" from EVERY nation and tribe... and people, and tongue... etc.

Jesus spoke to the apostles according to their limited understanding at that time. Because at that time they had no idea that Jesus' kingdom was heavenly. They were still imagining that they were going to sit with Jesus on a throne in tiny little Jerusalem. So Jesus used the 12 tribes to simply symbolize the entire domain of the king, which of course later, it was revealed that those in the new covenant were going to judge even the angels as well as the entire world.

So going by your logic.. the Memorial is ONLY for the twelve apostles since the "covenant for a kingdom" was judging the 144,000 sons of Israel.

No. Please don't attribute your twisted thinking to me. / You Know

Carmel

...speaking of limited understanding....

my, my bobby, aren't you special?

the cavebear

Prisca

Thanks Atreyu for showing the meaning of this ceremony.

logical

For those who require more evidence...

There is only one flock, one hope. All Christians should partake of the memorial.

John 6:28-56

So then they said to him, "What must we do to accomplish the deeds God requires?"Jesus replied, "This is the deed God requires-to believe in the one whom he sent." So they said to him, "Then what miraculous sign will you perform, so that we may see it and believe you? What will you do? Our ancestors ate the manna in the wilderness, just as it is written, 'He gave them bread from heaven to eat.'"

Then Jesus told them, "I tell you the solemn truth, it is not Moses who has given you the bread from heaven, but my Father is giving you the true bread from heaven. For the bread of God is the one who comes down from heaven and gives life to the world." So they said to him, "Sir, give us this bread all the time!"

Jesus said to them, "I am the bread of life. The one who comes to me will never go hungry, and the one who believes in me will never be thirsty. But I told you that you have seen me and still do not believe. Everyone whom the Father gives me will come to me, and the one who comes to me I will never send away. For I have come down from heaven not to do my own will but the will of the one who sent me. Now this is the will of the one who sent me-that I should not lose one person of every one he has given me, but raise them all up at the last day. For this is the will of my Father-for every one who looks on the Son and believes in him to have eternal life, and I will raise him up at the last day."

Then the Jews who were hostile to Jesus began complaining about him because he said, "I am the bread that came down from heaven," and they said, "Isn't this Jesus the son of Joseph, whose father and mother we know? How can he now say, 'I have come down from heaven'?" Jesus replied, "Do not complain about me to one another.No one can come to me unless the Father who sent me draws him, and I will raise him up at the last day. It is written in the prophets, 'And they shall all be taught by God.'Everyone who hears and learns from the Father comes to me. (Not that anyone has seen the Father except the one who is from God-he has seen the Father.) I tell you the solemn truth, the one who believes has eternal life.I am the bread of life. Your ancestors ate the manna in the wilderness, and they died. This is the bread that has come down from heaven, so that a person may eat from it and not die. I am the living bread that came down from heaven. If anyone eats from this bread he will live forever. The bread that I will give for the life of the world is my flesh."

Then the Jews who were hostile to Jesus began to argue with one another, "How can this man give us his flesh to eat?" Jesus said to them, "I tell you the solemn truth, unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink his blood, you have no life in yourselves. The one who eats my flesh and drinks my blood has eternal life, and I will raise him up on the last day. For my flesh is true food, and my blood is true drink. The one who eats my flesh and drinks my blood resides in me, and I in him. Just as the living Father sent me, and I live because of the Father, so the one who consumes me will live because of me. This is the bread that came down from heaven; it is not like the bread your ancestors ate, but then later died. The one who eats this bread will live forever."

John 10:16-17

"I am the good shepherd. I know my own and my own know me- just as the Father knows me and I know the Father-and I lay down my life for the sheep. I have other sheep that do not come from this sheepfold. I must bring them too, and they will listen to my voice, so that there will be one flock and one shepherd. This is why the Father loves me-because I lay down my life, so that I may take it back again. No one takes it away from me, but I lay it down of my own free will. I have the authority to lay it down, and I have the authority to take it back again. This commandment I received from my Father."

In addition to Atreyu's post.

The Last Supper - very simple

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