My girlfriend is funny...

by Abaddon 22 Replies latest jw friends

  • Imbue
    Imbue

    The US always backs Israel for the Jewish vote and the money. Then it's their only real foot hold in the Mideast. The chosen people theory may be true for a few in office but not the majority.

    Your GF has a good sense of humor. Does she read your posts here? I'm interested to know what post-JW spouses think about it all. Especially if your come so far from the life. Think your GF may write about it for us Abaddon?

    Zimbabwe in Europe? Since when?

    Crazy is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.

  • Sargon
    Sargon

    The US backs Israel, but why does Israel ignore the US?

    The last time they paid attention to a bush
    they spent 40 years wandering around in the
    widerness.


    Imagination is more important than Knowledge. Albert Einstein

  • Satanus
    Satanus
    it's their only real foot hold in the Mideast.

    Really?? How many military bases does the US have in israel? In which mideast countries are there US bases? Aren't those bases footholds for the US govt? Is the tail wagging the dog?

    SS

  • Imbue
    Imbue

    SaintSatan How old are you? Where you old enough to read the newspaper during "Desert Storm." They have launched missiles from Israel.

    Crazy is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.

  • Satanus
    Satanus

    Imbue

    Patriot missiles had not been previously stored in israel. They were brought in from american bases in europe. Even so, israel interferred w the US patriot operators. See testimony by the patriot missile manufacturer, raytheon. It is from:
    http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/gulf/weapons/raytheontext.html

    In Israel the U.S. Army Patriot units and their crews were under the command of and deployed by Israeli air defense authorities who had never been trained on the operation and use of the Patriot system. Israeli Patriot crews had only completed half their training and had never actually fired a missile. Nowhere was it mentioned that Patriot was deployed in positions not optimized for defense of Israeli urban areas relative to Iraqi SCUD trajectories. In addition, Patriot operations, rather than using the fast response automatic procedures optimized in the system software, were placed under significantly slower manual control and were then changed virtually on a nightly basis by Israeli authorities against the advice of U.S. Army officials. In spite of all those difficulties, however, Patriot was successful in over 40 percent of the SCUD engagements in Israel. In contrast, in Saudi Arabia, Patriot was commanded and operated by highly trained U.S. Army soldiers who deployed and positioned their fire units consistent with U.S. Army doctrine for maximum effectiveness against Iraqi SCUDS launched against them. No experimentation of this established doctrine was attempted in Saudi Arabia. This perspective on the experience in Israel, the differences between what happened there and what occurred in Saudi Arabia and the resulting differences in success rates was never presented by WGBH.
    Patriot missile batteries were installed in or near the main target cities. After desert storm finished, american technicians left, but the missiles may have been gifted to the idf. Military bases were never granted to the US at that time or since then.

    The US begged israel not to retaliate against iraq, because israel's involvement would have broken off the arab part of the US coalition. So israel allowed bush to deploy defensive missiles.

    I'm 48. How old are you?

    SS

  • Imbue
    Imbue

    Storage who said anything about storage. Isreal is a foot hold for the US because of the AID(money) given. If the US wants to use Isreal they will or else they will cut the Aid and support. I never said anything about storage. D'uh

    I'm MUCH younger than you but I've been reading the Times since I was 10 years old. I wasn't raised a JW so I was allowed to think.

    Crazy is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.

  • Satanus
    Satanus

    Imbue

    It's more like israel is using the US for its own ends. Zionists in the us govt/media/finance make sure of that. They are the foothold of israel in america. You seem to have no idea of jewish power in the top levels of america. Wake up!!

    SS

  • Imbue
    Imbue

    If you read my original posts I noted that but I'm not a NAZI. Many groups have considerable influence and power in the US.

    Crazy is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.

  • Elsewhere
    Elsewhere

    Of course Zimbabwe is in Europe... from an American's perspective, a country is either in Europe or the Middle East.

    You see, the difference is that you have to get on a ship to Europe and ride a wagon the rest of the way to the Middle East.

    "As every one knows, there are mistakes in the Bible" - The Watchtower, April 15, 1928, p. 126
    Believe in yourself, not mythology.
    <x ><

  • Satanus
    Satanus

    Imbue

    The following article give some info on us bases in the middle east and asia. Note that the us has bases in Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, Qatar, Bahrain, the United Arab Emirates and Oman, but none in israel (a 'secret' us base may be there).

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    US military bases are being constructed. Thousands of US troops are also digging in for a long stay in Afghanistan and Pakistan.

    Washington's new military assets provide new links in a chain of facilities that include Camp Bondsteel in Kosova, bases and facilities in Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, Qatar, Bahrain, the United Arab Emirates and Oman in the Persian Gulf, as well as the Incirlik air base in Turkey (where many of the US warplanes that continue to bomb Iraq are based).

    The US has quietly constructed a US$1.5 billion base at al Adid, which boasts one of the longest runways in the region. US navy battle groups permanently prowl the Persian Gulf, the Arabian Sea and the Mediterranean. The Pentagon has approved the long-term positioning of two aircraft carriers and ships with thousands of marines aboard in the northern Arabian Sea.

    Los Angeles Times correspondent William Arkin described the expansion of the US presence on January 6: “The US is creating a ring of new military bases that encircle Afghanistan and enhance the armed forces' ability to strike targets throughout much of the Muslim world. Since September 11 ... military tent cities have sprung up at 13 locations in nine countries neighbouring Afghanistan ... Altogether, from Bulgaria and Uzbekistan to Turkey, Kuwait and beyond, more than 60,000 US military now live and work at these forward bases. Hundreds of aircraft fly in and out of so-called `expeditionary airfields’.”

    The best known of Washington's new facilities is the Kandabad air base, near Tashkent, in Uzbekistan, where US warplanes and 2000 soldiers from the 10th Mountain Division have been stationed throughout the war on Afghanistan. In return, Washington has promised to protect the repressive Uzbek regime's security and has given more than US$100 million in military aid.

    In Kyrgyzstan, a large base is being built at Manas International airport, 30 kilometres from the capital Bishkek. The US military is erecting facilities that will house 3000 personnel, reported Associated Press on January 9. Manas will, according US military spokespeople, become a “transportation hub” and will service jet fighters, cargo planes and air-to-air refuelling aircraft. Kyrgyzstan authorities have approved unrestricted US use of the base, including permission for it to be a launch pad for combat missions.

    In Tajikistan, US military aircraft are operating out of Kulyab, near the Afghan border. A US military team has visited Tajikistan to assess three potential sites for US bases. On January 9, Washington dropped restrictions on the sale of US arms or the provision of training to Tajikistan. The US State department said the move was “in the interests of foreign policy and national security”.

    Kazakhstan and Turkmenistan have also offered Washington locations for US military bases and allowed access to Afghanistan for US special forces.

    In Afghanistan, the US is constructing a large base near Kandahar, designed to handle a high volume of air movements. Around 1000 soldiers from the US Army's 101st Airborne Division have replaced the 1500 marines who established the base. Army troops are typically deployed to hold territory for extended periods. According to the January 9 New York Times, the Kandahar deployment “could easily double in size if the number of prisoners grew sharply, or if American forces were needed to capture terrorists”.

    US troops are also deployed at the Bagram air base, near Kabul, and at the Mazar-i-Sharif airport, in northern Afghanistan.

    In the course of its bombing blitz on Afghanistan, Washington set up operations at four air bases in Pakistan, from which marines and army commandos, search-and-rescue teams and support have been operating.

    US forces share the Jacobabad base, 480km northeast of Karachi, and Pasni base, 290km west of Karachi, with the Pakistan military. At Jacobabad, US forces have carried out major construction and repairs and installed radar facilities.

    Military ties
    Washington also has exclusive use of the Dalbandin airfield, 275km southwest of Quetta, which it uses as a forward refuelling base for special operations helicopters. The Shamsi airfield is also used by US special operations forces.

    Washington has also been strengthening military ties with other Central Asian and Caucasian states. Armenia and Azerbaijan have allowed the US military use of their air space. As a reward, the Bush administration lifted a 10-year ban on US military aid to the two countries.

    NATO officials arrived in the former Soviet republic of Georgia on January 11 to prepare for large military exercises later in the year. NATO troops from the US, Britain, Germany, Greece and Turkey will join hands with armed forces from the countries that constitute the NATO-aligned Partnership for Peace: Albania, Armenia, Austria, Azerbaijan, Bulgaria, Romania, Switzerland, Ukraine and Partneship for Peace's newest member, Uzbekistan.

    The Washington Post on January 6 reported that Cold War-era trade restrictions on Armenia, Azerbaijan, Tajikistan, Kazakhstan and Uzbekistan would soon be lifted. Kyrgyzstan and Georgia were exempted in 2000. While the restrictions were imposed in 1974, supposedly on the basis of the Soviet republics' poor human rights records, US officials admit that the only thing that has changed is that the ruling elite of these countries no longer call themselves “communist” and are now pro-US.

    Military cooperation with Uzbekistan, Kazakhstan and Kyrgyzstan began in the late 1990s. Military exercises involving troops from the five former Soviet Central Asian republics and the US have taken place since 1997.

    Around 290 military officers and politicians from Central Asian countries have been trained at the US-German sponsored George C. Marshall European Centre for Security Studies in Garmisch-Partenkirchen, Germany, since it opened in 1993. Many have risen to the top ranks of their countries' military and government.

    “We have soft-pedalled a number of our traditional concerns on human rights. That's part of coalition-building. You do it for a larger good, which is the defeat of terrorism”, Lee Hamilton, former Democratic Party chairperson of the US House of Representatives international affairs committee, told the January 6 Washington Post.

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