A question for Athiests

by EndofMysteries 125 Replies latest watchtower beliefs

  • NewChapter
    NewChapter

    I have to chime in. Yes, your understanding is flawed. You keep using terms like 'magic', and 'somehow' and jumping from element to element as though there is nothing in between but gaps. That is where you are not understanding. We don't just say that this suddenly appeared, but we study the processes that made it possible. We don't have all the answers yet, for sure, but the things we do understand lead away from the need for an intelligent designer. What looks like design to some is explained even better by understanding the processes that brought things about.

    And we don't fill in the gaps that are left with guesswork. There is no evidence for a god. Those gaps CAN be filled with a god, but they can also be filled with many other things. I tend to think that if a god is responsible, itshehe would have left some evidence.

  • Night Owl
    Night Owl

    Atheists are in a fantasyland of their own choosing.

    NightOwl

  • NewChapter
    NewChapter

    Can you support that statement, Night Owl?

  • poopsiecakes
    poopsiecakes

    It amazes me that people think that other people can somehow recreate in a few decades or at the snap of a finger what it took millions of years to do. Carry on...

  • J. Hofer
    J. Hofer

    what would a entire new type of fruit or animal be? you think fruits and animals just appeared the way they are now? ever heard of science and evolution? you might want to read up on it, maybe then you'll see the flaws in your posts. you can't educate yourself by being spoon fed on a forum thread.

  • EntirelyPossible
    EntirelyPossible

    Atheists are in a fantasyland of their own choosing.

    How so, exactly?

  • still thinking
    still thinking

    The point is something with intelligence is the origin

    Where is your evidence for this statement? I could claim the universe has a built in intelligence...but then, I don't have evidence for that either.

    I find it harder to 'believe' that something I have never seen 'created' everything.

    When you look at the sheer size of the universe and our place in it you can see that we are pretty insignificant in the scheme of things.

    There are billions of galaxies in our universe, hundreds of billions of suns in each of those galaxies, our sun is just one of them. And our solar system just a speck amongst billions of stars and planets.

    Here is some information about our galaxy...I see no evidence for god amongst this information....unless....you add it into the equation.

    The Milky Way is a barred spiral galaxy 100,000–120,000 light-years in diameter containing 200–400 billion stars . It may contain at least as many planets , with an estimated 10 billion of those orbiting in the habitable zone of their parent stars. [15] [not in citation given] The Solar System is located within the disk, around two thirds of the way out from the Galactic Center , on the inner edge of a spiral-shaped concentration of gas and dust called the Orion–Cygnus Arm . The stars in the inner ≈10,000 light-years are organized in a bulge and one or more bars. The very center is marked by an intense radio source named Sagittarius A* which is likely to be a supermassive black hole . The Galaxy rotates differentially , faster towards the center and slower towards the outer edge. The rotational period is about 200 million years at the position of the Sun. [8] The Galaxy as a whole is moving at a velocity of 552 to 630 km per second, depending on the relative frame of reference. It is estimated to be about 13.2 billion years old, nearly as old as the Universe . Surrounded by several smaller satellite galaxies, the Milky Way is part of the Local Group of galaxies, which forms a subcomponent of the Virgo

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milky_Way

    Why do we need to add our flavour of god into the scenario? Is it easier to do that than to look at the information as it presents itself?

    Wanting there to be a god and an afterlife does not make it so. Humans want to live forever, it's comforting to believe that we do in some way. So we have options don't we, we have heaven, hell, reincarnation, or even a resurrection on a paradise earth. None of these ideas have any proof to support their claims. They are the desires of mankind, taught as fact, to people who need to believe or have no choice because they were born into families that teach these beliefs.

    It is difficult to distinguish what is real and what isn't when we teach our children that gods exist. And our children believe us and others of authority because they are very open to suggestion. This belief becomes a part of who we are, because this is what we have been taught.

    But there is no evidence....for any of it.

  • Phizzy
    Phizzy

    What always surprises me is the speed with which believers jump to talking about the origin of life once they learn that I am an Atheist (as they would label me, I prefer Rational Humanist as a label).

    Do they have no proof for God that comes in between the birth of the Universe and 2012 ?

    Even if there is a Creator/God , He/She/It is not the God of the Bible, that is for sure.

  • Night Owl
    Night Owl

    Life came about from a "primordial soup"?

    Are you kidding me?

    Talk about a fantasy.

    Prove it.

    NightOwl

  • poopsiecakes
    poopsiecakes

    Word, Phizzy. Live a good life and do everything possible to help others live a good life, too. That's what it's all about.

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