Devil's Advocate , A QUESTION FOR RECOVERY AND OTHERS. (page 2)

james_woods

I don't either, (from now on), SlimBoyFat.

I think I would rather read 12 pages of 9/11 Truther nonsense.

Who cares if you don't read my posts? Of course that's a convenient copout when your back is pushed against the wall and you have nothing conclusive or substantiated to add to the discussion (especially your outlandish claims about serial CO molestors). Put up or shut up.

slimboyfat

I care that I don't read your posts because it would be a waste of my time. I didn't read the rest of this post even though it looked short. It would no doubt benefit from being shorter still.

I skimmed over the first post in the last thread. That was enough to know it was not worth reading further.

Good luck to you. You need it.

DATA-DOG

Any Elders or former Elders out there who would like to comment? Here is the deal Recovery, The letter you quoted is carefully written. You will read it again you will notice that only the Elders are informed of offenders moving into the congregation. The S.O.P is to not inform the rank-and-file. Notice the carefully worded language used so that persons such as yourself can say " We inform the congregation...".

our policy is always to send a letter of introduction when a publisher moves to another congregation. It is imperative that this be done when one who is known to have been a child molester moves. The secretary should write on behalf of the elders to the new congregation's body of elders and outline this publisher's background and what the elders in the old congregation have been doing to assist him. Any needed cautions should be provided to the new congregation's body of elders.

Do you have children? I wonder? I am guessing that you do not. The Elder's should inform parents, but as you can clearly see there is no official direction to do so. The emphasis is on keeping everything on the down low, this is done for reasons of confidentiality and keeping peace in the Congregations. The most important reason for confidentiality is to protect the WTBTS from litigation. Part of the reason the Jury awarded damages to Candice Conti is no doubt due to the calloused above the law attituted on the part of the WTBTS. You display the same attitude on this forum. None of your comments toward Candice Conti were remotely Christian.

dreamgolfer

HEAR HEAR!!! I second that last comment DATA DOG

Well put, and having been in a situation that you describe, I Agree, the ELDERS only want to cover the situation and feel they OWE NOTHING to the Rank & File. Only when they are all held accountable, (by moral & financial judgments) will this EVER change,.

All hail CC, she took one for the team ! She could have rolled over, but held fast to proved WHO really has God's blessing. (LOL)

She deserves all she got, and more if it is ever available,

I can't wait for the Book and Made for TV Movie

Elephant

…data…fault is fault…that much is evident…

…recall, even the great Judas Iscariot…the very same one chosen by your beloved Christ… stepped deep in it…

…I guarantee you that that this won’t be the last time you see similar headlines…such is life…such is the world you and I live in…concepts are perfect…perfection in you and I is…well…

…you too possess our ‘dogma’…

tec

Um... if the parents of children in any given hall were informed, do you really think that it would not become public knowledge in that hall very fast?

Peace,

tammy

DATA-DOG

Well Tammy, I have known people who were abused as children and as a result, repeated that behavior. Even so, I belive that it would be unkind and judgmental on my part to say that they were a monster who could never change and needed to be removed from society. I have first hand knowledge of such people within the congregation, and I have not revealed thier names to anyone because I honestly feel that they are not a danger. Since I have some information as a parent though, I can make an informed decision about wether or not my child goes to their house or in service with them. The point is at least now I have a choice. If you are not informed you have no choice. Also, I personally know these people, they are not an individual who has recently moved into the area from another congregation who everyone assumes is good company. Give me as a parent the information I need, and then I have a chance to decide to get to know this individual personally if I want. Then I can make an informed decision. I am not suggesting a witch-hunt. As far as things becoming public knowledge, that rests on the shoulders of each individual. If you are told something, you do not have to pass it on to someone else. That's why I said in my OP for the Elders to approach each individual Family with children. Then there is no need for Families to pass the information on to each other. If you believe the Elders are in a position of oversight, and they ask you not to pass on information then it's on you. You don't have to tell anyone because the Elders should be handling it already. I also highly doubt that the brothers and sisters kept secrets from each other in the 1st century congregation. They openly confessed to one another the problems they had, and were stronger for it. Also, if something very bad happens to a child, it will become public knowledge anyway, and if it does happen because Parents were not warned, don't blame it on God...

DATA-DOG

Recovery,

...you too possess our 'dogma'...

Everyone believes some " Dogma ", it doesn't matter if it is religious or scientific " dogma ". Information generally falls in to 3 categories:

1) Proven truth

2) false information

3) theories ( not yet proven to be true or false )

No human has the right to punish others or attack them personally because we don't fully agree with a theory. We are under no Biblical command to believe anything that in not true, or yet to be proven.

Devil's Advocate , A QUESTION FOR RECOVERY AND OTHERS.

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