God! I leave you guys for one day and look what happens? Do I need to stay and baby sit or what?
I don't want someone in my life I can live with. I want someone in my life I can't live without.
Booted! On the ship! Kicked off! Df'd!
by teejay 124 Replies latest jw friends
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WildHorses
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joelbear
Serious, I just can't keep up.
I need a scorecard.
In Tennis you can tell whose on what side because of the net.
In football and war you can tell by the colors of uniforms.
It's not fair I tells ya.
Like is teejay for or against Tina. Is waiting pro or anti Kent.
Larc is a Prisca lover or hater? Prisca likes who? what? wait a minute.
Logical is ambivalent in his non-hatred of the Farkel/Norm devotees?
Mommy dislikes bboyneko but likes people who like bboyneko on Wednesdays?
Kent and Norm like the northern hemisphere except that part west of the Greenwich meridian on months without R's in them?
VIVA LA REVOLUTION
hugs
Joel
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Perry
Young People Ask...
Is it wrong to argue with fellow apostates once I get old enough to leave the Truth?
While we do not endorse the leaving of the Truth, many young people decide to do so after participating on discussion boards. In light of this, would it be appropriate to apply the counsel at Titus 3:9 which says, "avoid stupid controversies".
While apostates will certainly suffer swift distruction and total anilation at the hands of our loving God, such-like ones have wondered if this counsel might apply to them as well.
While the counsel does only apply directly to the annointed of Jehovah, because of apostates previous association with them, it could very well be construed to apply to them as well.....by extension.
(Somebody slap the hell outta me...I'm stuck in Whatchtower prose!)
All I can say is that I have enjoyed many of TEEJays posts. I have also enjoyed many of the posts of those that have been slamming him on this thread too.
If someone crosses an ethical line, other posters will bring this up and through discussion a consensus should develop as to the right thing to do or not do.
Endless personal attacks serve no purpose whatsoever.
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plmkrzy
joelbear
Thhank gawd I thought it was me. I was going to ck to see if I took my meds this morning.
Hi Lilacs.
Nice to see you pop in.
I think this is my last post for the day so G'Day folks. It's Beautiful out side. I'm getting out today.
you all have fun.
plmkrzy"I look to the sea, reflections in the waves spark my memory
styx
Some happy,some sad"
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IslandWoman
Joelbear,
Like is teejay for or against Tina. Is waiting pro or anti Kent.
Larc is a Prisca lover or hater? Prisca likes who? what? wait a minute.
Logical is ambivalent in his non-hatred of the Farkel/Norm devotees?
Mommy dislikes bboyneko but likes people who like bboyneko on Wednesdays?
Kent and Norm like the northern hemisphere except that part west of the Greenwich meridian on months without R's in them?
LOL, that sounds like a soap opera intro. Was it "All My Children" or "General Hospital"?
Thanks!
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waiting
I think, for the most part, there are some good points in all posters. The threads and comments, when not angry, prove it - as is the case for many of the old H20er's, tj, larc, tina, on and on and on. Myself on rare occasion too.
However, when insults become the framework of one's comments....then personalities seem to become quite raw and ready to respond. I would think this is human nature - the response to attack, whether perceived or reality. Most likely wounded ego too.
As for Kent? Naaaaaaaaaa, he & I probably won't get along - although we've shared a glass or two of cyber wine a couple of times. But Watchtower Observer serves a need - and is well put together for that type of reader. As for here? I remember chatting with Simon - and he brought out that he had no great ultimate plan for it - just a place for people to meet, converse, etc.
And he brilliantly succeeded - now's the chance for us to allow the flow, whether discussions, civil arguments, fluff or jokes. It's his place, and Simon allows us to set the civil limits. Ain't it cool?
Oh, and Ang. too....I suspect she does a lot more than we appreciate
Teejay, it takes a big man to walk away from possible retaliation. I've read your posts before - your Tapestry thread was one of your best, like a walk in the cool park in the morning. Can you keep your side going relentlessly? Yes, so can I. IMHO, you're neither a troll nor spammer - you're a valuable poster here, even though I don't receive your jokes anymore.
Care to join the limited Cease Fire?
waiting
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teejay
If I had to put a figure on it, I'd say that 7% of me thought that kent might not boot me when he found out that I was posting on his board. A part of me thought he just might have it in him to, not let bygones be bygones—they aren't—but simply do for everyone who registered at his db what he knew Simon had done for him and all other comers to JW.com.
So, when he booted me, a small part of me was disappointed, not that I couldn't post, but that kent just didn't have "it" in him when a small part of me thought he might. When he jumped on my post like a duck on a June bug, the other 93% of me reacted with sheer glee. I knew beforehand exactly what he would do, and how bittersweet it is to choreograph another's actions. A part of me felt sorry for him -- that he was that predictable.
I've heard that kent is a cool cat in person – someone you'd like to toss back a couple of brews with down at the pub. Problem is, he lives in Norway and I live in the U.S. and if I have my way never the twain shall meet. The only way I've been able to scale the mystery that is kent is through what I've seen him do here at JW.com and little of it has been pretty.
So, based on that alone, frankly I don't care for the man. I especially don't like it that he caused sooo many problems here at JW.com and in the end blamed a kind-hearted, honest and fair man. kent was wrong—any sane person will acknowledge that—and making him look like... well... like he ended up looking, was fun. A lot of fun. I don't regret it.
What he never considered is that he could have won my little game if he'd done the right thing. If he'd tolerated me over there, he'd won some points—even from me—and I might've been flustered eventually and lost interest in the game. If. As it is, since kent is kent, kent couldn't have won because, well... kent is kent.
What stunned me was when those who had spoken for so long and so vehemently about the unfair moderation at h2o rose to defend him. What I *didn't* expect was the defense he got and from where he got it...
I was not a bigtime poster on the old 2o. I mostly lurked during its last couple of years, and then only a couple of hours a week. I got more and more involved just as it was closing down, so I don't know a thing about the haphazard moderation there or the problems it caused other than what I've heard some of you tell about.
As these stories have come out over the past year here on JW.com (where I *have* been involved), it's dawned on me that some of you were really hurt by having your posts randomly removed from the board, especially (from your viewpoint) without justifiable cause, and you carry those scars with you even now. On another thread last night, Alan spoke of an incident from years—YEARS!—ago. I thought that was *very* sad... nothing to laugh at. I finally understood, but then again, I didn't. In some ways, Alan's comment only made me scratch my head.
The words "freedom of speech" is bandied about at times – only a catch phrase to win an argument or make a point, but in reality it's a pretty big deal. We all want to be, if not agreed with, at least heard and understood. I think that's a very important component to everyone's well-being. Therein lies the importance of being able to post our thoughts and, every now and then, have them responded to. Beyond the context of this discussion board, as former Dubs many of us have suffered the indignity of living as disfellowshipped, a state of walking dead, where our voices are not heard and our thoughts are unwanted. It takes only a couple of weeks of that – not the months or years we've actually experienced it – to learn that we will NOT act in certain ways toward others ever again.
I thought that those from the old h2o who experienced having their posts randomly deleted would be the last to defend an unfair moderator. The most I expected from them was silence. From the way I had the game with kent figured out, I boxed his friends into a corner: they would either not come to his defense AT ALL—leaving him swinging in the wind all alone—or else they'd be forced to agree with the dreaded teejay. It was another win-win.
I was shocked by what *actually* happened... I really was. And I don't mind telling you... it frightened me a little 'cause I don't know what it means.
In the scheme of things, on the one hand what happens here on JW.com is trivial and unimportant. On the other, maybe not. There's something to be learned seeing a person who acknowledges having been formerly abused somehow (in this case: having their posts removed from a db) and who apparently still bears the emotional wounds years later, actually defend the very same action when it's done to someone else that they may not like.
Silent inaction on the part of the one who sees the abuse is one thing. Boldly defending the abuse is something else.
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larc
Hey Teejay,
It is all complicated, but it is simple at the same time. We all came from the same place. We all have the same objectives regarding our past and what we want for ourselves and others in the future.
The complicated part is how we all react differently and how we try to deal with each other as very different people. Take Kent for example. I have great admiration for the monumental effort he has put in to exposing the WT. His cite is a real piece of work. However, on a personal level I have no use for his obscene language, pornographic cartoons, and his villification of other people. He reminds me of Mozart. I appreciate Mozart's work, but not his choosen life syle.
Perhaps, with Kent's new discussion board, he will become "born again" in a new spirit of what it is to be human. Sometimes, crusaders like Kent, forget the effect their words have on individuals.
It is hard for Kent and his close friends to understand that I have no ill will for any of them. They have their own personal demons to conquer and their own lives to live. I wish all of them the best.
All I ask from them or anyone else, is for them to leave me alone, in my efforts to do good work. If someone thinks I have a bad idea, that is fine, but if they want to claim that I am a bad person, with bad intent, well, that is another issue altogether.
Teejay, I think the "old timers" in question have fierce loyalty for each other, which is a good thing. However, I think they have allowed that loyalty to cloud their judgement regarding the mistakes of their friends. A friend should be able to tell a friend when they have messed up, even in public. I don't see that happening here.
Well, I'm done for now. Take care brother.
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Farkel
Teejay,
What Kismet said hurt my feelings, because he and I have been friendly and have shared private information for a goodly number of years.
Therefore, I'm not going to deal with your last response to me. I will allow myself to just accept that we disagree on some stuff, particularly with our respective presentations of material and opinions.
Oh, and there is one other thing: despite my sometimes acerbic methods, I've never been accused of being a troll. Despite the fact that a lot of people think I push and exceed the envelope of decency, people have never doubted (or at least admitted such on any discussion board) that I am sincere in what I do.
You haven't made the same impression. I agree with Alan in that I think you have excellent intellectual abilities. Where are you with the "sincere" (moral) part, though? I don't know.
Farkel
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Julie
Hi Larc,
I must admit I was truly captivated by your post. Ever consider fiction writing?? I predict great success for you in this area.
:It is hard for Kent and his close friends to understand that I have no ill will for any of them. They have their own personal demons to conquer and their own lives to live. I wish all of them the best.
Indeed it is very hard to understand and believe this.....considering that the facts speak otherwise.
:However, on a personal level I have no use for his obscene language,
Oh yes, you have proven how horrified you are by obscene language! Let us see how well you wish those who disagree with you and, at the same time, we can witness your mastery of the Queen's English, shall we Brother Larc?
:Now, when Tina tells me to go fuck myself that is entirely a different matter. She made the call and she has to live with the consequences. That low life bitch can go fuck herself as well. I will not back down. I will not but up with her low life shit. This is total war. I hope I have made myself clear. I will not take shit from anyone at any time. I would suggest you stay out of the line of fire,
So, just curious, who is it exactly do you think you are fooling (well I mean besides the obvious ones)?? Yes, why you are practically destined for the Let-by-gones-be-by-gones Hall of Fame Larc.
So Larc, verbally beat up any pregnant ladies lately?????
Julie
Edited to add: "Silent inaction on the part of the one who sees the abuse is one thing. Boldly defending the abuse is something else." Teejay, I couldn't agree more, it is sickening to see it done, is it not?