by moshe 31 Replies latest social entertainment
It's true that the north korean army has a formidable look. And, it could be so, However, i question their staying power, if anything ever happened. For an army to succeed, it needs the support of the civilians and infrastructure. Basically, the civilian population is starving and impoverished. The propaganda that they have been fed and believe would likely crumble if reality ever crashes in on them, be it through real war, or govt collapse.
S
And, no-one should sell the NK Army short. As far as outsiders can tell it is a well disciplined force. You laugh at it at your own peril.
I agree - but only in Korea. There is no way they could undertake a North American invasion.
Agreed Bobcat. The theme of the film is pure paranoid fantasy.
Satanus. Don't listen to your own side's propaganda. I suggest that life in NK is not as terrible as is presented in lazy, sloppy journalism in the west. And, the money is on life in NK getting better.
Kim Jong un has been making public statements to that affect. What could he know that others may not? Well, the possible inside story is that NK has discovered large deposits or rare earth minerals, and that the forced retirement of former General Ri (the former Army leader) was related to that, as the Army had been controlling the mines. The story is that Ri's house was stuffed with cash and when the Kim's found out how much money was involved they acted to take control. The minerals are, of course, being sold across the border into China and thence to whoever in the world wants to buy the stuff.
If JWS ever gets back to life (and they can access their past threads) there is quite a bit of stuff about NK that's been posted.
More, the Chinese (who detest instability in a border country) have been pushing the NK goverment to raise living standards by allowing free markets, which to a certain extent have been permitted, and that is certainly helping life in NK.
If you find an internet newspaper called Asia Times located in Bangkok, (it was a print newspaper, until it went bust in the Asian Financial crisis of the 1990's) you'll find many good articles on NK, likely giving a more accurate account of life there than many Western newspapers. Particularly look for items by Andrei Lankov and Leonid Petrov. Petrov is an academic at Sydney University and I study under him. Lankov teaches at the Australain National University in Canberra and also at a South Korean University. Both have had quite a few visits to NK.
In any case as any reader of googlemaps knows, its difficult to hide what's happening inside any country these days.
Thanks, fts. I can see how china would a large window of influence in nk.
S
From the point of view of the movie. In australia it did happen. Today it would be easier as the 'Greens Party' and successive governments have all but disarmed the civilian populace.
Young people here particularly females would go into utter shock that their hand phones no longer work and they cant call up(list them all) to come and save them, feed them, dress them, wipe their backsides etc..
No I wont be watching the film and I live in the most isolated capital city in the world.... Perth. Get your atlases out guys and take a think.
What would the WTS do ( have in plan) for such an eventuality..? My guess, nothing as they did for the bros/sisters under Hitler before the actual war broke out when they could have got them out via neutral countries...
that is Perth, Australia. another country you guys have possibly never heard of.
moshe:
Are you sure that its YOUR military or are they working for someone else ? Did you authorize Ir or Af ?
Also, america's history from its beginning right up to the present moment has been one of invading others - expansionism. The present arab wars are a culmination of that mentality. Everything is a war to them; the war on drugs, the war on poverty, the war on terrorists. They expect others to have the same atitude towards them as they have to others. And, they know so litlle about other countries like china russia and their histories. The american system sees to that.
That is the story, in a nutshell. Movies and entertainment like Red Dawn is a matter of projection of ones own ideas onto others. America was born as a nation and expanded through conquest, and became an empire through projecting force abroad. That is not the nature of all other nations.
EMP attacks were an important part of Soviet war plans in the event of nuclear war. If Able Archer had went the wrong way the first thing that probably would have happened would be extremely high altitude airbursts of the big Sov warheads. Probably would have made a nice glow over the US.
You know what gives me nerves? War between Japan and China. Think about how destabilizing that would be.
http://news.nationalpost.com/2012/09/21/china-japan-conflict/
