Was the Watchtower Right? (page 4)

Fernando

If the framework is corrupt everything inside is compromised.

Whether the WBTS is right or wrong doctrinally is besides the point.

Their hidden message and framework that we are put right with God by means of finding and following the "correct" doctrines is an apostate teaching called "ethnocentrism".

Their hidden message and framework that we are put right with God by means of rule-making and rule-keeping is an apostate teaching called "legalism".

The same with moralism and Gnosticism.

According to the "good news" in scripture we are put right with God by means of IMPUTED righteousness granted as a "free gift" through unmerited favour. The criminal who died next to Jesus did not earn his way into paradise/heaven - and neither can we.

(Their own publications debunk "legalism" as a denial of Christian faith - apostasy.)

CaptainSchmideo

"A stopped clock is correct twice a day."

Doesn't mean I want to base my schedule on it.

NomadSoul

They got 1914 right.

sir82

They got 1914 right.

Really? 1914 was "not the beginning, but the end of the time of troubles"?

We're living in paradise now?

Dang! I must have been sleeping.

thinking_not_believing

"millions now living will never die" ... wait whats that? theyre all dead now? shit ( this was an interesting thread though)

Ultimate Axiom

They didn't get 1914 right. Everything they say now about 1914 was formulated after 1914 - apart that is, from it being the "end of the Gentile Times". And we now know that even if you accept the day for a year stuff in the application of Daniel's prophecy, they have that wrong as well.

NomadSoul

Well the signs are right there.

Ultimate Axiom

But what do the "signs" mean? Everything they said about the signs prior to 1914 has been proven wrong by the passage of time. After the event prophecies are no prophecies at all. And that's only the tip of the iceberg, take a look here - http://www.bible.ca/Jw-Prophecy.htm

Leolaia

Probably the only thing worth keeping from the JW approach is the emphasis on the physicality of the resurrection. Lots of otherwise orthodox Christians think they believe in something like the immortality of the soul, when what they believe in is the resurrection of the body. Of course, the resurrection of the body is based on the belief that Jesus was raised, which is something that JWs reject.

The JWs don't even believe in resurrection, much less the resurrection of the body. They teach that nothing of the original body is raised again in the resurrection. They go further to deny any sort of continuity between the person who died and the person who is raised. The latter is rather a facsimile of the person who died.

And there are many Christians who believe in a corporeal resurrection, such as Bishop N. T. Wright.

OnTheWayOut

Looking for anything that Watchtower got right is like saying that Benito Mussolini may have destroyed freedom in Italy and murdered those who tried to stop him, but at least he got the trains to run on time again.

While the train thing is not 100% accurate, such a statement would be an attempt to find good efficiency in such a horrible government.

Anything Watchtower got right is not unique to them and it doesn't merit giving any credit to them. KNOCKING (JW documentary) attempts a similar feat in discussing Watchtower's championing of personal freedoms in the courtrooms but fails to mention how their courtroom battles were self serving and how they took away personal freedoms from members.

Was the Watchtower Right?

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