Niave Realism

by frankiespeakin 23 Replies latest jw friends

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  frankiespeakin

  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Na%C3%AFve_realism

  Naïve realism, also known as direct realism or common sense realism, is a philosophy of mindrooted in a theory of perception that claims that the senses provide us with direct awareness of the external world. In contrast, some forms of idealism assert that no world exists apart from mind-dependent ideas and some forms of skepticism say we cannot trust our senses. The realist view is that objects are composed of matter, occupy space and have properties, such as size, shape, texture, smell, taste and colour, that are usually perceived correctly. We perceive them as they really are. Objects obey the laws of physics and retain all their properties whether or not there is anyone to observe them. [1]

  Naïve realism is known as direct as against indirect or representative realism when its arguments are developed to counter the latter position, also known as epistemological dualism; [2] that our conscious experience is not of the real world but of an internal representation of the world.
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  breakfast of champions

  I think I am a naïve realist.

  Sorry.
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  Leolaia

  I come from a more critical realist perspective, overall.
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  tec

  Interesting. I don't think we perceive much of anything as it actually is... because our senses are very limited. Which is why we develop tools to enhance those senses. The better the tools, the more we see. So no, I do not think we perceive reality accurately, with our senses.

  Peace,

  tammy
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  Satanus

  Water, when we jump into it, is a fairly direct experience. But, even then, is that enough to really understand water?

  S
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  still thinking

  What is the point you are making with this thread? Is this going somewhere? Is it connected with something? Or just putting out a random concept for everyone to meditate on?
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  sabastious

  What is the point you are making with this thread? Is this going somewhere? Is it connected with something? Or just putting out a random concept for everyone to meditate on?

  Do I detect a hint of frustration?

  -Sab
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  Satanus

  He said 'meditate'.

  S
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  frankiespeakin

  Well I'm not a Niave Realist, probably somewhere closer to an Idealism(idealist?).

  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Idealism

  Still,

  c)Puting out random thoughts for discussion if so inclinded.
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  NewChapter

  I don't think there is a point. This was simply a definition. I think it's how we get through everyday life---see a wall, don't walk into the wall. It's kind of necessary, unless we want to walk out of windows. But scientists measure things differently in different contexts. The article goes on to explain that while we in our normal life of realism express color---science will see it as light waves. A deeper understanding of color, but not necessary in everyday experience.

  If there was a point, it was not stated, so there is nothing really to argue or discuss. We just all got to read about a term that may have been one we didn't know.