Okay I thought I'd make an official thread on this since it's being talked about a lot lately. This is the truth taught in the bible about getting holy spirit and about if there are really human leaders or not.
I'll quote all from the NWT for the benefit for JW lurkers, the message is not lost and everyone can check their own translations.
James 1:5-8 So, if any one of YOU is lacking in wisdom, let him keep on asking God, for he gives generously to all and without reproaching; and it will be given him. 6 But let him keep on asking in faith, not doubting at all, for he who doubts is like a wave of the sea driven by the wind and blown about. 7 In fact, let not that man suppose that he will receive anything from Jehovah; 8 he is an indecisive man, unsteady in all his ways.
(Notice how, and this IS quite hard at first, but if you have doubts, you will not get it. You must really have faith, that if there is a true loving creator, he is going to lead you. You will need to take a leap of faith on it. )
Luke 11:9-13 - Accordingly I say to YOU, Keep on asking, and it will be given YOU; keep on seeking, and YOU will find; keep on knocking, and it will be opened to YOU. 10 For everyone asking receives, and everyone seeking finds, and to everyone knocking it will be opened. 11 Indeed, which father is there among YOU who, if his son asks for a fish, will perhaps hand him a serpent instead of a fish? 12 Or if he also asks for an egg, will hand him a scorpion? 13 Therefore, if YOU, although being wicked, know how to give good gifts to YOUR children, how much more so will the Father in heaven give holy spirit to those asking him!”
(Here is a promise, that if you ask, the father will give you holy spirit. When you start to get it, you may start to learn things or go in a scary direction at times, and lead to things you do not understand. You need to have faith in this promise that it's not a scorpion or something bad/evil or incorrect. Again inline with James, you need be sure, if you put faith in him, and from this, hold him to his promise. The spirit of truth has only lead me to truth, parts have been scary or take a long time, some answers may take years. If you endure and keep faith and trust in it, you'll find as the years go on that it's not lead you wrong. )
Jesus was leaving, when he was going to die, who did he say was going to teach?
John 14:15-20 - If YOU love me, YOU will observe my commandments; 16 and I will request the Father and he will give YOU another helper to be with YOU forever, 17 the spirit of the truth, which the world cannot receive, because it neither beholds it nor knows it. YOU know it, because it remains with YOU and is in YOU. 18 I shall not leave YOU bereaved. I am coming to YOU. 19 A little longer and the world will behold me no more, but YOU will behold me, because I live and YOU will live.
John 16:12-14 - “I have many things yet to say to YOU, but YOU are not able to bear them at present. 13 However, when that one arrives, the spirit of the truth, he will guide YOU into all the truth, for he will not speak of his own impulse, but what things he hears he will speak, and he will declare to YOU the things coming.
( no idea why nwt has you capital but again doing it for lurkers sake,,,,anyway who did Jesus say would instruct? He didn't say to go to any human, he said he will send the spirit of truth and that it would teach you)
Let's see what the apostle paul had to say about learning things........
Galations 1:11-12 - 11 For I put YOU on notice, brothers, that the good news which was declared by me as good news is not something human; 12 for neither did I receive it from man, nor was I taught [it], except through revelation by Jesus Christ.
Infact if you keep reading it makes it very plain that he didn't even bother to speak to the apostles at all after learning anything, he just went to work.
1 Thess 4:9 - YOU do not need us to be writing YOU, for YOU yourselves are taught by God
1 John 2:27 - And as for YOU, the anointing that YOU received from him remains in YOU, and YOU do not need anyone to be teaching YOU; but, as the anointing from him is teaching YOU about all things, and is true and is no lie, and just as it has taught YOU, remain in union with him.
Let's see if the old testament is in agreement as well........
Is 30:20-22 - yet your Grand Instructor will no longer hide himself, and your eyes must become [eyes] seeing your Grand Instructor. 21 And your own ears will hear a word behind you saying: “This is the way. Walk in it, YOU people,” in case YOU people should go to the right or in case YOU should go to the left.
Read Ezekiel 34......you'll see it describe the exact condition of the kingdom hall and how elders treat everyone. This is in the first 15 or so verses, then he says because of that he will take over........ ‘“I myself shall feed my sheep, and I myself shall make them lie down,” is the utterance of the Sovereign Lord Jehovah. 16 “The lost one I shall search for, and the dispersed one I shall bring back, and the broken one I shall bandage and the ailing one I shall strengthen, but the fat one and the strong one I shall annihilate. I shall feed that one with judgment.”
So in the old testament in Ezekiel, Isiah, Jeremiah, shows the leaders/shepherds/etct leading them astray and he would seek seek them out and teach them.
Everything in the new testament also shows no human instructors, except for giving a foundation, but that anybody can get holy spirit.
The gathering of themselves together.......that becomes a real encouragement when alone you may question or get tired, but imagine getting together with others and all of your understandings being harmonious with eachother, or things each of you have been learning or working on individually when combined give you all better understanding. If you read about the early congregation, it showed all had different gifts of the holy spirit, and it was set so that all those who gathered together would be upbuilt and beneficial to all.
Hope you see, I'm not making it up. That is what the bible teaches. Whether you believe it and will try it is up to you. But hopefully you now realize that all religions teaching it must be told you is not scriptual.
O let me state some more......in the end or the last days, does it show a big organization as having the light???
Daniel 11:32-33 - And those who are acting wickedly against [the] covenant, he will lead into apostasy by means of smooth words. But as regards the people who are knowing their God, they will prevail and act effectively. 33 And as regards those having insight among the people, they will impart understanding to the many.
(does that sound like an organization?)
It is hard, I prayed I think 5 years ago as James 1:5 said, also putting trust in what Jesus said about getting holy spirit and not a serpent or scorpion. When I began to learn TTATT, it was not from anything online, it was actually from the spirit of truth as I was reading the bible. That's why I've been able to post what I have showing how what the society teaches is not the truth, I began seeing the scriptures exposing the falsehoods. My family thought I was under demonic influence, because I was going against the society. It took a lot of faith to trust this because JW's all teach if you leave or on your own satan will take over. But I said no, I am trusting in God, in these promises, and over 5 years I was learning things, it's been real difficult. But it had been true, it works. It's a new concept because your whole lives you've been lied to. Do you see how what the bible teaches about this you have never done, so ofcoarse nobody knows the truth or what is really going on right now and why. Or they only know a very little.
So anyway hope this helps.